Abbreviation in Howard marriage

Yvonne · Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 173 Location: Southport

I have found a marriage in the Parish Registers for James Howard to Alice Rymer. btp cp
btp - I know this is 'both of this parish'

but cp??

Unable to find what this means in the abbreviations.

My only thought is consent of parents.

Can someone confirm this for me please.

Yvonne colors

Jane · Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 9:05 pm Post subject:

Does it give their ages? If they were under 21 then they would need parent's consent.

Must say I've never come across that one before

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Yvonne · Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 173 Location: Southport

Jane, No it does not give their ages.

The marriage date is 17th May 1814, and funnily enough the three marriages above it also has cp after them.

Also in the One name Extracts PR for Rimmer the same marriage has cp after it as well as four marriages before and after it.

Perhaps I should have put in my first post that it is in the One Name Extracts.

Yvonne

Jane · Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 8:57 am Post subject:

If it is in the parish records then it should be on our one name extracts. they are copied from the PR's.

I would doubt it was consent of parents for so many to have it written on the entry. I wonder if the p is parish but I can't think what cp stands for. Maybe someone will spot this and put us out of our misery.

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Bez · Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 3:35 pm Post subject:

It isn't a mis-typing either because I have just been looking at the Rimmer One Name Extracts and I note that one entry says sp, btp, cp. Perhaps we should ask the Lancashire Parish Register Society?

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Jane · Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 3:46 pm Post subject:

What a good idea Beryl. Now do they do email I wonder.

Yes I found their site and have emailed. Watch this space

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Yvonne · Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 173 Location: Southport

Will watch this space also

Yvonne Wink

SeaCopRimmer · Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 4:28 pm Post subject:

Can't wait to find out this one - I have never noticed the cp before - but as Bez says there are a lot in the Rimmer One Name Index; could have a lot of fun working out what it might be though Rolling Eyes

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Yvonne · Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 173 Location: Southport

Just had a brainwave!!!!

Went on Lancs Online Parish Clerk Project.

The marriage I quoted says Consent of Parents at the end.

Yvonne

Dotty · Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 8:03 am Post subject: Well done...

Well ladies I knew we would find the answer somewhere. I say 3 cheers to Yvonne for bringing the query to our attention and then for using her noggin and finding the answer! Now we have that knowledge and are the richer for it...

Dotty thumbup

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Jane · Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 8:11 am Post subject:

Makes you think though - how many people married at a very young age back then? They must have been under 21 to need parental consent.

Then again I doubt many celebrated 50 years together. Not because of divorce but the average life span. What a sad thought. Sad

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SeaCopRimmer · Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 8:14 am Post subject:

When was the minimum age of marriage raised to 16? I know at one time young people of 14 could marry with the parents' consent Shocked

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Dotty · Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 8:45 am Post subject: Makes you think...

You're right of course Bez. Gladys you may have a point about the age thing. This info has made Yvonne think that these peeps are not the ones she wants cos of the cp thing.

Y'all have a nice day now...and see you later! Trying to find a key to the chapel...don't panic all will be well.

Dotty nike

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Jane · Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 9:30 am Post subject:

Oh Seacop I never thought about age limits being different then!! Of course you could marry younger but not sure what age you needed parental consent. Have to see what i can find out now

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Bez · Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 9:34 pm Post subject:

I came across this recently - I think it was 1929. It used to be 14 for boys and 12 for girls - but I will check up on that. Where on earth did I read it?

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