Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:35 pm Post subject: Alice Abram b.1847
Hello Folks
I am a bit stuck.
i am working my way through some notes my cousin Sheard Sumner has given me and i have a problem.
He has in his notes George Sumner marrying an Alice Abram in 1780 daughter of James Abram and Jane Whittle
Alice was born in 1759 and died in 1810 aged 65 (making her born in 1747)
Having had a look on Ancestry there are loads of family trees that give Alice Abram b.1747 as the daughter of Laurence Abram and Jennet Bond.
I have looked through the parish registers and the 3 Alice Abram's there married Richard Wright,Robert Wright and George Sumner.
How can I untangle this and pin down the correct parents of the Alice Abram that married George Sumner?
One idea i have is the memorial inscription for Alice Sumners death in 1810 may have a clue. Are these memorial inscriptions available anywhere?
Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:49 pm Post subject: Park Database
Don't know if this will help or not...... it's from the Park Darabase:
ID: I12644
Name: Alice ABRAM
Sex: F
Birth: in Crossens, North Meols, Lancashire, England
Christening: 29 APR 1759 St. Cuthberts, North Meols, Lancashire, England
Note: 1
chr 1759 Apr 29 Alice d. of James & Jane Abram of CrossensPage: page 31_UID: 17C1794FADEB449097A3758BC72317579EF9
Change Date: 16 FEB 2009
Father: James ABRON b: in North Meols, Lancashire, England c: 14 Feb 1730/1731 in St. Cuthberts, North Meols, Lancashire, England
Mother: Jane WHITTLE
Marriage 1 John JOHNSON b: 1752
Married: 1 NOV 1786 in North Meols, Lancashire, England
Children
Henry JOHNSON b: in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England c: 24 JUN 1788 in St. Cuthberts, North Meols, Lancashire, England
Elizabeth JOHNSON b: in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England c: 11 JUL 1790 in St. Cuthberts, North Meols, Lancashire, England
James JOHNSON b: in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England c: 16 OCT 1791 in St. Cuthberts, North Meols, Lancashire, England
Betty JOHNSON b: in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England c: 9 JUN 1793 in St. Cuthberts, North Meols, Lancashire, England
John JOHNSON b: in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England c: 13 SEP 1795 in St. Cuthberts, North Meols, Lancashire, England
John JOHNSON b: in Blowick, North Meols, Lancashire, England c: 11 MAR 1798 in St. Cuthberts, North Meols, Lancashire, England
Thomas JOHNSON b: in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England c: 18 MAY 1800 in St. Cuthberts, North Meols, Lancashire, England
William JOHNSON b: in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England c: 24 OCT 1802 in St. Cuthberts, North Meols, Lancashire, England
Robert JOHNSON b: in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England c: 24 NOV 1805 in St. Cuthberts, North Meols, Lancashire, England
Sources:
Type: Vital Record
Title: The Parish Registers of North Meols 1732-1812 transcribed by F. H. Cheetham, Preston 1934
Location: FHL
Best wishes
Jo
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thanks for that its helpful confirmation of my suspicion
I have just checked with my cousin and he agrees that he has the wrong parents down in his notes.
Pity he didn't tell me that before I posted my essay above
Hi Dave so we must be related too I have just been speaking to Sheard on the phone.
The Park Data base is invaluable.
It is by Joyce L. C. Otterstrom
So much info off parish records. Woudl take years to read it all.
Germaine
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hello Germaine
I know he just spoke to you, when i got through to him after you yacked for an hour he told me
its all sorted now, made a mix up between us somewhere.
When you get a minute we can have a cup of tea and compare notes.
I am in Blackpool but work in Fleetwood. Email me at animal168 at btinternet dot com
I'd just add that it is quite likely that the Park database is the ultimate source for most of those Ancestry trees! Certainly is for mine
PS that George Sumner is my GGGGG-uncle, but I have not yet started on his family
PPS hmm - Park database has the Alice Abram who was daughter of Lawrence & Jennet as married to Robert Wright. It's getting late, need sleep, maybe all will become clear in the morning
Hi Dave. I know I thought would just ring and see who he was, was on the phone ages.
Turns out we once met in the library and another time in the cemetry.
That would be good to compare finds and have a brew too.
Wlil email you.
have just ct sight of this thread and am reminded of a line from the Rubaiyet
"I entered a room with doctor and saint- and heard great argument but oft left thro the same door in which I entered"!!
In other words - who please is The Alice Abram who wed George Sumner/ - nice to see another blue on the site.
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