Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 4:13 pm Post subject: BARLOW family drownings - 1812.
Hello All,
Any thoughts and/or suggestions about the the following events would be appreciated:
Whilst researching my wifes' BARLOW family (et al) living in the North Meols area, and making use of the St. Cuthberts register transcriptions on microfiche, I discovered the following series of rather tragic drownings that took place on Sunday the 28th of June 1812. The burials took place on June 30th, July 8th and July 11th following. The burials being scattered over a period of many days no doubt due to the bodies being washed ashore at different times. The names of those recorded are: -
THOMAS CORNER aged 25; WILLIAM CORNER (his son) aged 1yr. and JANE RYMER aged 17, (who I suspect is also related, but the connection is not yet researched). All of these were buried on the 30th of June 1812.
A further burial, that of MARY CORNER ( nee BARLOW), aged 24, the wife of Thomas and mother of William was buried on the 8th of July.
The last of this group, NANNY (ANNE) WRIGHT (nee BARLOW) aged 35, was buried on the 11th of July 1812. Nanny is the elder sister of Mary Corner (above), buried three days previously.
There is no reference to Nanny Wright's husband NICHOLAS WRIGHT and, so far I have not yet found any burial for him at any any later date so, it may be that he also perished but his body was not recovered.
Now, the reason for quoting all of this is that I would love to discover if there is any source of information that anyone knows of that possibly records this event and would enable me to determine what actually occured and why.
Any thoughts and suggestions would be gratfully accepted.
_________________ Don Hancock.
Researching the names; -
BARLOW, BOWLER, CARR, CHEETHAM & MARSHALL in and around the Birkdale & Halsall area of south west Lancashire.
Have checked in the Annals of Southport and there is nothing listed there; not sure when the 'local' newspapers started, but I think it was after this date. Liverpool may have had a newspaper which reported something like this - it's a long shot (try contacting the Liverpool Echo and see if they can help).
I have found the burial, in St Cuthbert's Churchyard, of a Nicholas Wright, aged 68, on 28.11.1836 - could be him?
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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 8:54 pm Post subject: BARLOW drownings 1812.
Hello again,
Thank you all for your messages.
To 'Unsworth' - I had already found the Marine Heritage web site, but there is nothing published there. However I have now posted the same query on their forum to see if that produces anything. I will let you all know what turns up.
To Jane - I only have the register transcript m'fiche and they do not reproduce any 'notes' etc made by the vicar of the time. It will be worth a look at the registers when we next get to Preston.
I also have a smear of egg on my face! I own up to missing Nicholas Wrights burial. Thanks for pointing that out. Now I know he was not one of the party. (Possibly stayed at home to look after the kids!).
_________________ Don Hancock.
Researching the names; -
BARLOW, BOWLER, CARR, CHEETHAM & MARSHALL in and around the Birkdale & Halsall area of south west Lancashire.
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 8:39 pm Post subject: BARLOW family drownings - 1812
Hello Germaine,
Thank you for your suggestion. What an interesting site. That should cause me to 'waste' many more hours at the very least!
I have just looked at the shipwrecks and inquests sections, (and a few others), but they only go back to 1815 and 1849 respectively.
Thanks again.
Don.
_________________ Don Hancock.
Researching the names; -
BARLOW, BOWLER, CARR, CHEETHAM & MARSHALL in and around the Birkdale & Halsall area of south west Lancashire.
Ah Shame they didn't cover the year you need Don. But glad you found the site interesting. I do I would have a look back now and again they seem to add things.
Germaine
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I just had a thought pop into my head. does the southport lifeboat institute still exist if not what happened to all their logs. wouldn't they have had record of any drownings in the area. I seem to remember as a child my grandad talking about them. also fog bell had a log book where did it end up?
Southport does have a lifeboat but....this one has only been with us since the 1980's. For quite a few years we had no lifeboat here. It is NOT RNLI but self funding. So I wouldn't have thought the present crew would have any of the old log books.
The fog bell on Marshside Road is merely an empty building. I would hope there is nothing inside - it would be in a dreadful condition. The roof had to be repaired fairly recently. I think Seacop may be able to add more.
There is a local 'expert' on shipwrecks. He takes guided walks out to look at remains of shipwrecks. In fact he is to be in a TV programme this evening - BBC1 Inside Out at 7.30. Martyn Griffiths.
I have tried putting Southport shipwrecks into Google and quite a few sites come up - including one for Martyn -
Only a thought but do you think they may not have drowned in a ship wreck but were out shrimping and got hit by the incoming tide. Was thinking that with women being with them, did they not lke woman on board ship in those days.
Oh thanks for the programme reminder Jane I hadn't seen that will watch it.
Germaine
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I think it could have been hand putting for shrimps and caught by the tide or by fog; they could also have been fishing in a 'family' boat - women frequently went with the men to fish in shallow waters.
The Fog Bell housing was last used by the Southport Fisherman's Association; I was offered the key to the building but seeing as there was no door !!!!!!!!!!!!!
I do know who hold the papers from the Association - when I next see him I'll ask if there was a list of local ships/drownings, etc. In fact, I need to go and see him, he has my grandad's lifebelt (corks and all) so I might just ask him if he wants to hand over any papers - might be useful to the NM(S)FHS
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I would have a look back now and again they seem to add things.
