Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 9:47 pm Post subject: ELLEN HOWARD
I just recieved the marriage cert for William Rimmer age 23 (1849)bachelor and Ellen Howard age 28 (1844) spinster his father was as expected William rimmer (fisherman) but hers was listed as John Ball (labourer) both residents of marshside marriage after banns 15th june 1872.
can anyone shed light on why her fathers name is ball and who is her mother? if any one has this lady on their tree could you be so kind as to point me in the right direction
I have been acquiring certs to confirm info, thought I had this one right....boy was I shocked when I got the cert.
Sounds like the saga we ahd with the Howards and Meadows a while ago.
Can't see her on my tree but will have a root about when I wake up proper.
Could be like Jane said or even that her mother married someone else other than John Ball.
I found one last week. She married in the name Cowell naming her father but when I eventually found her baptism her mother was calling herself Hornby. Luckily I now know the family were using that name at the time. Her mother went on to marry someone else not her father.
So on familysearch she was down as Dewhurst on the census Hornby and married as a Cowell.
Germaine
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Hi
Should this be Ellen JOHNSON? I can find no baptism for either Ellen Johnson or Ellen Ball for around the time of her birth (i.e. 1842-48). I have searched under the surname Ball and Johnson nor can I find anything with father's name different to child/mother. Seems as if the original record needs to be looked at?
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Well spotted Sea Cop. That needs to be looked at.
Also on the 1881 they have a sister living with them. Now she states unmarried and her name is Alice Threlfall ??. Is this the right William and Ellen Rimmer.
Oh who are the wit. will that give a clue.
Germaine
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Oh Alice Threfall is William Rimmers step or half sister so we can rule out looking at her connection.
John, James and little sister Margaret are Williams siblings. I think James is his brother and Mary is james's wife Mary nee Hooten. one thought I had was that mommy was pregnant with John Balls child but married a Howard, father died perhaps or left her. need to check on that line of thought
1844 lancashire BMD
HOWARD William BALL Margaret North Meols St Cuthbert North Sefton C9/1/162
could this be mom?
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Ellen Howard
Year of Registration: 1844
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Ormskirk
County: Lancashire
Volume: 21
Page: 595
Parish Record of Marriage:
15.06.1872
William Rimmer X 23, Bach, Fisherman, Marshside; father William, Fisherman
Ellen Johnson, X 28, Spinster, Marshside; father John Ball, Labourer
Married by Charles F Holt, Curate, after Banns
Wit: James X Rimmer and Mary Rimmer
James and Mary (nee Hooton) were William's brother and sister-in-law
NB: William Rimmer (Snr) married Jane Threlfall (Widow) of Halsall in 1884
_________________ I may be a shrimp but I'm BIG on family history
Oh that is a strange one again isn't it . Registered as Howard but in the parish records as Johnson.
I wonder would it help to get one of her chidlrens birth certs and see what it gives as her maiden name on that.
Germaine
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this is getting stranger as we progress.. if the parish one is the correct on, and I don't see why it wouldn't be as they would know all the locals, then she must have given the name she went by to the registrar..
have ordered a certificate of birth for John Rimmer I am hoping it is the right one....added parents names for reference....I had 5 to choose from for that year in Ormskirk so I chose the ref that had 2 on the same page. hope one of them is him other wise its 3 I will have to order and at the exchange rate its rather expensive. will update when it either arrives or I get a refund.
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