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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 3:26 pm    Post subject: Hughes Reply with quote

Any one know of a Betsey Hughes who in 1901 was widowed and lived in Chambers Road Southport with her children, Thomas, Isabel, Bessie, Dorothy and Constance,

Thanks  Sheila


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 1914-15 directory lists a Mrs Bessie Hughes living at 37 Chambres Rd, house name - Blair Athol.  It was at the Scarisbrick New Road end.



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 7:29 pm    Post subject: Hughes Reply with quote

Thanks Bob which directory would that be and how do I get to look at it?


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sheila,

It is Seed's Southport & District Directory, sixth edition 1914-15.  Mine has been in the family since then, when my grandfather bought it for six shillings.  

I would think that Southport Library would have a copy but not of much use if you live elsewhere.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Southport library do have lots of street directories. Most years from about 1860's until the 1960's when I suppose telephone directories took over

If you want me to look this address up let me know the exact details - year etc and I will do that when I'm in the library next.



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 3:28 pm    Post subject: Hughes Reply with quote

Thanks Jane it would be great if you could find out more for me.  The info I have is that Betsy aged 44 - living on own means - lived at 37 Chambers Road North Meols on the 1901 census.  With her were Thomas, Isabel, Harry T, Bessie T, Dorothy B and Constance M.  Also a Servant Elizabeth Hamer.  In 1881 Betsy's husband was alive and they lived in Bolton with her father, a butcher and 3 servants.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will if I can but - what exactly is it you want to find?

I can check local street directories and see when she left that address - might find her listed in the alphabetical list so can trace where she moves to.

There is also the electoral register but remember not all women got the vote until 1928 - and then only those over the age of 21

If you know a death date I can look in old newspapers to see if there is a funeral report



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 4:11 pm    Post subject: Hughes Reply with quote

If you could check local street directories to see when she left that address and if possible where she moved to. Connection is more with her daughter Isabel and whether she was still living with Betsy in 1914-15.  I presume the 1914-15 directory would state who is living in the house. Ta  


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sheila,

The 1914/15 does not show occupants, only the head of the house.  I beleive this generally applies to all directories.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bob is right. The street directories only list head of house. The only way to find other adults is on electoral registers and most woman were not included because they didn't have a vote.

I will start 1901 and follow the address and let you know who lived there. If the family are still there in 1928 I shall look at the electoral register and see who was listed



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some women got the vote immediately after WW1 :

All women over 21 have been able to vote in parliamentary elections in England since 1928. Some women had been eligible since 1918, but voting was limited to women who were over 30 years old and who were either householders or the wives of householders.

I know that I've found women voting in their own right as early as 1920 - very few admittedly, but if their husband's had disappeared during WW! many of them became householders so they are, possibly, listed - it's a reall pain trying to find women in the early days



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a trip to the library today & myself & Brian (husband) went through the directories and some electoral registers for you. Hope some of this helps

All for 37 Chambres Road

1902 directory - Mrs Bessie Hughes
1906 & 1910/11 & 1914/15 directory - Mrs Bessie Hughes

1914 electoral register - Betsy Hughes - dwelling house (Means she got the vote through householder status)

1924/25 and 1927/28 directories
Miss B Hughes
Mrs N Kitchen

These were separate entries for the same address - maybe the house was spilt into flats?

1933/34 directory - again separate entries
Miss B T Hughes
J K Ellidge - tailor & clothier

1936/37 directory - separate entries
Miss B T Hughes & C H Handforth

1939/40 - separate entries
Miss B T Hughes & Mrs D Marshall

1951 directory - just down together
Dorothy B Marhsall & Bessie T Hughes & Constance M Hughes

1955 directory - same as 1951

1957 Electoral register
Marshall - Dorothy B & Robert G
Hughes - Bessie T & Constance M

1960 directory - R G Marshall, B T Hughes, C M Hughes

1965 Electoral register - Dorothy B Hughes, Bessie T & Constance M Hughes

1970 Electoral register - Bessie T & Constance M Hughes

1971 & 1972 electoral register - Bessie & Constance Hughes

The 1973 electoral register had no 37 Chambres Road listed at all - maybe the house was empty?

So it would seem Betsy lived there followed by her daughter Bessie & she was joined by Constance.
Might give you an idea when Betsy died - or moved



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 4:22 pm    Post subject: Hughes Reply with quote

Thank you Jane for the information it is of great help.  




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