Mary Jane Rimmer c1859

clubbyr8 · Joined: 18 Oct 2008 Posts: 53 Location: Sydney, Australia

I'm looking for information on George Howard's wife, Mary Jane Rimmer born c1859 in North Meols. Father was Peter Rimmer born c1837 in North Meols. Mother was Jenny ??? born c1836 in North Meols.

I don't know when Mary was born or died, when Peter Rimmer was born or died, what Jenny's maiden name was or when she was born or died.

It appears that in the 1861 census Peter is listed with Jenny. In the 1871 census Jenny is a widow. In the 1881 census Jenny had married a Howard.
In the 1891 and 1901 she is listed as the wife of John Howard!!!!

Two different (but related) Rimmer's marrying two different Howard's. Confusing or what????

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Jane · Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 8:06 pm Post subject:

Just a thought - have you tried the Park data base?

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clubbyr8 · Joined: 18 Oct 2008 Posts: 53 Location: Sydney, Australia

Thanks Jane, didn't know about it. Looking now.

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clubbyr8 · Joined: 18 Oct 2008 Posts: 53 Location: Sydney, Australia

I think I might have found the marriage of Peter Rimmer and Jenny. Looks like her name was Jennet(t) Brookfield and they got married in the December quarter 1857. In the 1861 census she is listed as Jennet Rimmer and the 1871 census as Jenney Rimmer (and a widow).

Looks like I'm making some progress.

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Germaine · Joined: 28 Jun 2006 Posts: 749 Location: Fleetwood

Sorry I missed this thead Bob.
Yes think you are right on the info you have found.
I found this death it seems to match up with the last child that Peter had and the next census. Also his age on the 1861 census,
Don't know if you looked but did you notice John Howard wasn't on the 1881 census with Jenny but she was down as married I think I found him in Warrington.
Germaine
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Death Quarter 1 1869 Rimmer Peter 33 Ormskirk 8b 482
1881 census
John Howard abt 1841 Banks, Lancashire, England Boarder Rixton With Glazebrook, Lancashire

clubbyr8 · Joined: 18 Oct 2008 Posts: 53 Location: Sydney, Australia

Thanks Germaine appreciate the help.

I did notice John Howard was missing form the the 1881 census with Jenny but haven't tried to locate him yet.

On another note, the marriage certificate for George Howard and Mary Rimmer states their father's names. In Mary's case it's Peter Howard but it doesn't state he is deceased. I have other marriage certificates that state whether the father is alive or not. What was the normal practise?

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Jane · Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 5:41 pm Post subject:

They usually state deceased if that was the case but................sometimes didn't when the father had died. The information on any certificate is only as good as the person supplying it.

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Germaine · Joined: 28 Jun 2006 Posts: 749 Location: Fleetwood

Oh that is funny Peter Howard it looks like she mixed the two up or did you mean Peter Rimmer.
Like Jane said it wasn't uncommon for them not to mention their parents were deceased. Only thing was if they did it was a help.
There again they sometimes made things up too.
Didn't like to make it easy.

Germaine
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clubbyr8 · Joined: 18 Oct 2008 Posts: 53 Location: Sydney, Australia

Doh, too early in the morning. Um, I meant Peter Rimmer. It was 4.35 am when I posted it.

Well done Germaine, you found my deliberate mistake

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Germaine · Joined: 28 Jun 2006 Posts: 749 Location: Fleetwood

Ah makes a change for me not to be the one that made the bloomer.
Germaine
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Dotty · Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:12 am Post subject: Chuckle...

Hi Bob

I thought it was just me who got carried away doing family history. On the first day I got Ancestry I was up till 5am...

Dotty :grin:

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Jane · Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:15 am Post subject:

he's the other side of the World - and a very early riser

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Dotty · Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:37 am Post subject: Well...

I hadn't thought of early rising...anyway, he's still keen!!

Dotty

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Germaine · Joined: 28 Jun 2006 Posts: 749 Location: Fleetwood

Aren't we all more so at first.
Oh the times I used to go to bed.
Now i think well they are not going anywhere so will leave it.
Mind you still spend hours. Love a mystery
Gemaine
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Yvonne · Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 364 Location: Southport

There is a Peter Rimmer baptised 20 Aug 1837
son of John and Mary, Birkdale, Labourer

the next one further back was baptised 1831

(St Cuthbert's Registers only)

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