Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:26 pm Post subject: Silas Lloyd
Hi im looking for any information on Silas Lloyd who was born in Southport and killed in action during WW1
Also...
Im looking for a Samuel Lloyd who was also born in Southport and killed in action during WW1. I know Samuel was a Southport resident but apart from that i know very little on the 2 men.
Thank you
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1901 England Census
Where born: Southport, Lancashire, England
Street address:52 cemetery rd
Registration district: Ormskirk
Sub registration district: North Meols
Household Members: Name Age
Samuel Lloyd 32 teacher of swimming
Jane Lloyd 32
Lucy Lloyd 7
Samuel Lloyd 6
Frances Lloyd 55
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 3538; Folio: 168; Page: 5.
UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919
Name: Samuel Lloyd
Birth Place: Southport, Lancs
Residence: Birkenhead, Lancs
Death Date: 18 Sep 1918
Enlistment Location: Southport, Lancs
Rank: Private
Regiment: Hampshire Regiment
Battalion: 12th (Service) Battalion.
Number: 13821
Type of Casualty: Killed in action
Theater of War: Antwerp
UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919
Name: Silas Lloyd
Birth Place: Southport, Lancs
Residence: Southport
Death Date: 17 Apr 1917
Rank: Sergeant
Regiment: Manchester Regiment
Battalion: 12th Battalion.
Number: 49189
Type of Casualty: Killed in action
Theater of War: Aldershot
medals
victory 4/1/104 B45 page 8989
british DO DO
The CWGC shows that Samuel Lloyd, aged 23, was the son of Jane Lloyd of 7 Market Street, Southport, and the late Samuel Lloyd.
Can't see an entry for Silas on the CWGC?
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I'm always puzzled why Ancestry thinks so many died in Aldershot; it seems to be wrong about Silas as well
According to "Splendid Hearts":
Samuel Lloyd kia Balkans 18/9/1918, commemorated Doiran Memorial, Greece. Son of Jane Lloyd & late Samuel Lloyd
Silas Lloyd (from Visiter 20 Apr 1918, In Memoriam):
"In loving memory of my dear husband, Sergt. Silas lloyd, 12th Manchester Regiment, who died of wounds in France April 17th 1917.
Oft I think of you dear husband
And my heart is sad with pain.
Oh this world would be heaven
Could I hear your voice again.
Just twelve months ago you left me,
How I miss your loving face.
But you left me to remember
That some day we meet again.
From his loving wife and little son, Silas, 19 Sandon Road, Birkdale"
Another dedication from his mother and father stated Sergeant Lloyd was 24 years old.
"When we last saw his smiling face he looked so strong and brave. I little thought how soon he'd be laid in a hero's grave."
Yvonne - I didn't know he was a sergeant nor his regiment so wouldn't put a post here unless I was sure?
BrianG - Aldershot is stated as the theatre of war because (according to my beloved) that is where they would have done their basic training so would be their embarkation point? But I am only quoting what I've been told by 'him who knows'
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Seacop,
I just looked on the CWGC site with the info 'sooner' had already posted.
ie
UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919
Name: Silas Lloyd
Birth Place: Southport, Lancs
Residence: Southport
Death Date: 17 Apr 1917
Rank: Sergeant
Regiment: Manchester Regiment
Battalion: 12th Battalion.
Number: 49189
Type of Casualty: Killed in action
Theater of War: Aldershot
medals
victory 4/1/104 B45 page 8989
british DO DO
aldershot was the theatre not the place of death......each portion of the battle was given a name [the theatre]
I've had a scout round and apparently the Ancestry database is completely $£"^&**^ as regards "theatre" This from another forum:
Quote:
Hi folks
There are some major errors in Ancestry as regards the SDGW database. For some reason all the Theatre of War fields are wrong - whenever it gives Aldershot, it should read "France & Flanders". (Those given as Austria mean Palestine, Antwerp means Gallipoli, etc. Anyone who died at "Home" (ie in the UK) is recorded at the enigmatic "Brough - Sic"!)
Also, less obviously wrong, in most (if not all) cases the Residence and Enlistment places are the wrong way round.
Ancestry are aware of this as loads of people have reported it. It's very naughty of them not to have sorted it out by now, or at least to post a warning of the errors
Quote:
That is correct. Naval & Military Press, who produce the "Soldiers Died" in CDROM form, have obviously sold their database to Ancestry. Somehow the technicians at Ancestry completely b*ggered up the loading of the database and got the field headings wrong. It would take two minutes to correct. I know many people who have contacted Ancestry about it but to no avail. You pays your money
That would also explain Samuel's theatre being given as "Antwerp"
Whilst searching through the war volumes in the library for any Lloyds I might recognise I came across these names. I havent noted wether or not there was a picture in the volumes. But both 'Samuel Lloyd' 13821 Private, son of Jane and Samuel Market Street, Commemorated at Dorian Memorial Greece..
.. and Lloyd Silas 49189 Sergant, killed 17.04.1917, wife and son Silas of Sandon Road, (Southport Visiter 20-4-1918)... got a mention in there.
Have just worked Silas into my tree as a 7th cousin 2x removed
Silas was son of Peter Lloyd of Birkdale & Elizabeth Ellen Guy. He married Priscilla Dewhurst in 1916, son Silas' birth was registered Q2 1917. Silas senior was killed April 1917.
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