The Portland Brewery

Dotty · Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 4:25 pm Post subject: The Portland Brewery

Does anyone know where the Portland Brewery was?

It sounds like it should be near Portland Street.

Any help would be appreciated by our Historian.

Dotty :?:

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bobg · Joined: 12 Apr 2007 Posts: 152 Location: Canada

Could it have been associated with the Portland Hotel on Bedford Road on the corner of Kew Road?

Bob

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SeaCopRimmer · Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 6:52 pm Post subject:

The Portland Brewery was, supposedly, situated on Portland Street near to the junction of King Street; rumour has it that it went back as far as the Cheshire Lines railway - but that is pure conjecture

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Jane · Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 7:12 pm Post subject:

Dave looked at our tithe map and says -

"The Portland Brewery is not indicated on the Tithe Map as what is now
King St ( there was no Portland St. then )

as the land was not tithed hence no numbers. There are buildings there
in the area but nothing to say what they are"

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SeaCopRimmer · Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 7:17 pm Post subject:

I've found it on old-maps.co.uk
It is very close to Upper King Street and I've printed off a copy and will post it off to Aunty Pat tomorrow - no I won't 'cos the posties are on strike so if I go as far as Birkdale I'll post it through her letter box - will that make me a 'scab' for crossing a picketer

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Jane · Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 7:24 pm Post subject:

What year have you found it Seacop?

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SeaCopRimmer · Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 9:27 pm Post subject:

It was on an 1848 map - Aunty Pat said it was round about 1840-50 that the person thought it was there (I think); I put Southport in for search and moved around until I saw it; it is quite clearly marked. It definitely didn't go down as far as the Cheshire Lines

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Dotty · Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 4:26 pm Post subject: Great news...

Thanks so much for all your help Jane, seacop and bob.

I'm sure Aunty Pat will be grateful and so will the lady from the USA.

TTFN

Dotty :grin:

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deverick · Joined: 06 Feb 2007 Posts: 13 Location: New Zealand

Oooh! I know the Portland Brewery - it was my gggggfather Richard Ball's address in 1858 & 1861. I'm wondering who's interested in it and why - maybe a rellie of mine? I may be able to help.

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SeaCopRimmer · Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 7:06 am Post subject:

One of our Committee Members was looking for it for a lady from America; we have a Committee Meeting tomorrow evening so will see if we can get a name?

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Yvonne · Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 365 Location: Southport

Now I know why the Portland Brewery rang a bell when I was looking at the "Register of Leases of the Bold and Scarisbrick Estates 1763-1867" yesterday at the Library.

- could have noted the details.

Jane · Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 1:25 pm Post subject:

Yvonne they sound interesting. Was this Southport reference library? May have a nose myself when I'm in next week

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Yvonne · Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 365 Location: Southport

Yes it was Jane. It was quite interesting as on some of the leases they listed the person as Dead but there are a few that give the actual date of death.

Jane · Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 2:52 pm Post subject:

It might be something worth transcribing for the society. I shall be having a word with Matthew in the library next week :grin:

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Yvonne · Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 365 Location: Southport

Thought I would give a couple of examples of what to expect, although not all are the same, remembering that I was just looking at Howard's..

Life Leases granted by Miss Ann Maria Bold

Lease No 62
Date 1764
Lessee William Howard
Name of lives
Jennet Howard 19 Dead
Jennet Howard 10 Dead
Wm. Howard 7 died 24 Nov 1843

Remarks; Part of New Marsh called the Dock No 5 in the plan. Wm Howard Crossens.

and another that caught my eye, simply by mentioning a Hamlet Cropper

Lease No. 45
1804
Lessee Robert Cropper
Number of Lives
Robert Cropper 27 Dead
Alice Cropper 25
Hamlet Cropper 17 Dead

Remarks ; Called the Lythe near? Crossens, owned now by Wm Bond, Banks

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