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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 7:53 pm    Post subject: Wesleyan chapel, Mornington Road Reply with quote

Hi,
anyone know when the chapel opened? I have a marriage dated 1873 and suspect it was held there because the bride was already pregnant. There are no indications in the family of an allegiance to this brand of religion before then. Also after the completion of the marriage , there are no signs of a permanent conversion to methodism. Was this a marriage of 'convenience'? Have any other members noticed similar occurrences?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you look on the forum under Genral topics you will see a heading - Local Churches. this tells you when a church opened

1861 Mornington Rd. Wesleyan


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Both my mother and her sister were married at the Wesleyan Chapel in Mornington Road (1930 and 1925 respectively);  neither were Wesleyans but of the Marshside Primitive Methodist persuasion, it appeared to be a convenient place for 'runaways' to marry.



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 12:59 am    Post subject: Mmmm... Reply with quote

Is this church the 'jam chapel'?  If it is then this is where my g.aunt was married.  Her family was against her marrying.  The other family members had married in Victoria Methodist Chapel in Sussex Road.

Maybe the minister was of a kindly disposition.      

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, Dotty this is not the Jam Chapel.

You organised a visit to the Jam Chapel some years ago, while it was still a church - now it's a GP surgery.

In any case, the Jam Chapel was Primitive Methodist, not Weslyan.



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 8:47 am    Post subject: So... Reply with quote

As you say I know the 'jam chapel', so where was the Weslyan chapel in relation to St Marks?

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There were 2 chapels in Mornington Road - one was the college refectory and (I'm not sure) may have been pulled down a few years ago.  There is another building nearer to Derby Road which seems to have belonged to the other chapel.  Not sure what that's used for now.  I've not been along that stretch of Mornington Road for a while so I'm going on memory here.  One was Weslyan and the other may have been independent Methodist, but again, I'm not sure.  An old map of central Southport is what is needed.



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was indeed demolished in 2006. There is a thread all about it on SGB -
http://www.southportforums.com/fo...amp;pp=30&highlight=refectory


I found my Central Southport map of 1909 but it doesn't show Mornington Road

There is a Southport North map in the same series but I don't have that one. The society sell them both

Maybe someone will have better luck finding something on the Internet.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 1:30 am    Post subject: Oh... Reply with quote

Thanks for that update.  I remember the chapel in the college being demolished...it was a shame!  Such a lovely building.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just looked at old-maps.co.uk and the following is shown on a map dated 1894:

Walking down Mornington Road (from Hoghton Street) there is a block of houses, a street and then a Sunday School, a Chapel, then a School (corner of Derby Road);  on the opposite corner of Mornington Road/Derby Road is a Chapel.
On the opposite corner to the Chapel (corner of Derby Road/Kensington Road is Station!

Part of the old Chapel (next to the College) is still there but not used as a Chapel, but the entrance looks 'churchified'.

I also noticed the street names - Fleetwood Street (now Marlborough Road), and Hesketh Street (now Arnside Road);  I always thought Hoghton Street had previously been Fleetwood Street;  maybe Fleetwood Street was straightened out and renamed Hoghton Street and the old part retained and later renamed as Marlborough Road?



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Oh, of course now I remember that the parcel office thingy used to be on the corner where ASDA is now...and the steam engine museum wotsit used to be there too...     q9

I daren't go looking at old maps or I'd get nowt done all day...
Thanks for that information,    

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 3:04 pm    Post subject: Wesleyan Chapel Mornington Road Reply with quote

In 1891 my Gt Gt Grandfather Moses Langtree was working as Chapel Keeper at the Wesleyan Chapel, Mornington Road.
There's a photo of the newly build Mornington Road Wesleyan Church, still surrounded my cottages, in Harry Foster's book SOUTHPORT A History published 2008.
When I was at "The Tech" about 1960 we used to have Dancing & PE in the Mornington Hall.  It was the hall attached to the chapel and next to the Tech site.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So would I be right in thinking that is the building that is still there on Mornington Road and the Refectory was the other Chapel?



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have that book. I shall scan some photo's of churches into the PC and start a new photo page for local churches.  

Edit at 19.53 - They are now under Photographs




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