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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 10:50 am    Post subject: William Aspinwall 1785 Reply with quote

Another full stop that I hope somebody might take me a step further.

William Aspinwall was born in Lathom in 1786 and married Elizabeth nee Cooper b 1790, also Lathom. Don't know when but by 1841 census they were living in Halsall Lane Scarisbrick and he was a boatman (presumably on the canal).

They were still there in 1851, missing in 1861 and he died in 1869 in Wigan (I suppose this could be Parbold or Newburgh, so not far from his birthplace).

Does anyone have Aspinwalls or information on them, particularly the above or their parents etc.

PS The earliest Aspinwalls were from Aspinwall, Ormskirk. This confused me for years as no such place seemed to exist but gradually it dawned on me that Asmall, Nr Halsall, was a corruption of Aspinwall and Asmall Hall was the old Aspinwall Hall Farm. Old Maps confirmed Asmall Lane was Aspinwall Lane. So I've found the lost village, now to connect my Aspinwalls to the originals.




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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have Aspion(w)alls - well my husbands line does. But I doubt there is a connection as I can't get far back with them.

Miriam Maud Aspinall born 1881 in Birkdale. Died 1919 in Southport

Parents - William Aspinwall (1851 Scarisbrick - 1884 Southport) married Mary Hornby 1880 St Joseph's in Birkdale

His parents - no father!
Margaret Aspinwall - born about 1831 Newburgh and died 1927 in Ormskirk but lived in Southport most of her life.

I know Margaret had a sister, Jane born about 1818 but I can't find their baptisms.

Good luck with getting a link to the original Aspinwalls. I doubt it can be done because parish records only go so far back



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also have three Reginald Aspinwalls in successive generations. In all the places I've looked there seem to have only ever been four people called Reginald Aspinwall, my three and one from Preston whose paintings are selling for thousands.

Oh well - guess I was never intended to have money.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Jane,

A little more info has since turned up and several sons and daughters for William. These include Jane 1818 and Margaret c1830, presumably your two. My Reginald, their baby brother, seems to be the youngest of 12.

William was actually Christened on 5th June 1785, son of a further William and Jane Harrison.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh that sounds interesting. Where were the baptisms?



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most of my info is from Lancs OPC although there are five of the twelve missing;

Baptisms: 26 May 1811 Douglas Chapel, Eccleston, Lancashire, England
Mary Aspendale - daughter of Willm. Aspendale & Betty
   Born: 10 May 1811
   Notes: Contained in Eccleston register
   Register: Baptisms 1782 - 1812, Page 271, Entry 6
   Source: LDS Film 1526114

Baptisms: 25 Oct 1812 St Peter and St Paul, Ormskirk, Lancashire, England
James Aspinwall - Son of William Aspinwall & Betty
   Register: Baptisms 1794 - 1812, Page 97, Entry 38
   Source: LDS Film 1849663

Baptisms: 9 Oct 1814 St Peter and St Paul, Ormskirk, Lancashire, England
William Aspinwall - Son of William Aspinwall & Betty
   Born: 6 Sep 1814
   Abode: Lathom
   Occupation: Farmer
   Baptised by: J. Williamson Curate
   Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1820, Page 60, Entry 478
   Source: LDS Film 1849664

Baptisms: 27 Oct 1816 St Peter and St Paul, Ormskirk, Lancashire, England
Ann Aspinwall - Daughter of William Aspinwall & Betty
   Born: 6 Oct 1816
   Abode: Lathom
   Occupation: Labourer
   Baptised by: J. Williamson Curate
   Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1820, Page 147, Entry 1170
   Source: LDS Film 1849664

Baptisms: 25 Apr 1819 St Peter and St Paul, Ormskirk, Lancashire, England
Edward Aspinwall - Son of William Aspinwall & Betty
   Born: 2 Apr 1819
   Abode: Lathom
   Occupation: Farmer
   Baptised by: J. Williamson, Off Minister
   Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1820, Page 242, Entry 1935
   Source: LDS Film 1849664

Baptisms: 1 Feb 1826 Latham Chapel, Ormskirk, Lancashire, England
Thomas Aspinwall - Son of William Aspinwall & Elizabeth
   Abode: Lathom
   Occupation: Boatman
   Notes: No birth date given
   Baptised by: R Battersby
   Register: Baptisms 1820 - 1833, Page 218, Entry 4181
   Source: LDS Film No. 1849664

and here is father;

Baptisms: 5 Jun 1785 Douglas Chapel, Eccleston, Lancashire, England
William Aspinal - son of William Aspinal & Jane
   Abode: Ormskirk
   Notes: Contained in Eccleston register
   Baptised by: Rev Thomas Walker Curate
   Register: Baptisms 1782 - 1812, Page 30, Entry 1
   Source: LDS Film 1526114

It seems the family traditionally used Douglas Chapel which was on this side of Parbold Hill.

and his parents marriage;

Marriage: 10 Apr 1780 St Peter and St Paul, Ormskirk, Lancashire, England
William Aspinwall - of this Parish
Jane Harrison - (X), of this Parish
   Witness: Wm Heyes; Jno Barton
   Married by Banns by: G Monk
   Register: Marriages 1754 - 1784, Page 333, Entry 1341
   Source: LDS Film 1849664


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that. I haven't looked at this family for a long time. I shall have to find the file and if you want more details I can let you have them



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really would appreciate that Jane,

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

William Aspinwall
Born - 10 November 1851 Scarisbrick, Lancashire
Died - October 1884 Southport
Buried - 25 October 1884 Duke Street Cemetery, Southport
Married - 22 November 1880 St Joseph's, Birkdale, Southport (RC) - Mary Hornby
One daughter - Miriam Maud Aspinall born 1881

His parents –
Margaret Aspinwall
Born – 1831 Newburgh, near Ormskirk
Died - November 1927 Ormskirk
Buried - 26 November 1927 Duke Street Cemetery, Southport

Married (1) - James Sumner ( 1833-1870) 28 December 1864 Ormskirk
2 children –
Elizabeth Sumner – 1866 – she married Michael Flynn who was a JP
James Sumner - 1868

Married (2) –  Robert Forshaw (a widower)
16 November 1878 St Joseph's RC Church, Birkdale, Southport

Census -
1851 census - Liverpool Road, North Meols - a school.
Margaret Aspinall - house servant aged 22 born Newburgh.

1861 census - Fleet Street, Scarisbrick
Margaret Aspinwall - 32 House servant born Newburgh

1871 census - 6 Trap Lane, Southport
Lodger - Margaret Sumner - 38(wid) Laundress born Newburgh
Dau - Elizabeth Sumner - 5 scholar born Southport
Son - James Sumner - 2 Born Southport

1881 census - 5 Elm Road, Birkdale, Southport
Head - Robert Forshaw - age 38. Brewer born Bickerstaff
Wife - Margaret - age 49. Born Newburgh
Dau - Ellen Forshaw - age 12. Scholar born Southport
Dau - Margaret Forshaw - age 5. Scholar born Tarbuck? Lancs
Sdau - Elizabeth Sephton - age 16. Scholar born Tarbuck, Lancs?
Sdau - Teresa Sephton - age 14. Scholer born Southport
Sdau - Elizabeth Sumner - age 15. Scholar born Southport
Sson - James Sumner - 12. Scholar born Southport

1891 census - 189 Portland Street, Southport
Head - Margaret Forshaw - age 60. Widow, Laundress born Wigan
Dau - Elizabeth Sumner - age 24. Laundress assistant born Southport
Son - James Sumner - age 22. Joiner born Southport
Sister - Jane Whalley - age 72. Widow, laundress born Newburgh
Gdau - Marian M Aspinall - age 10. Scholar born Southport
Servant - Margaret Woods - age 25. General servant born Preston

1901 census - 20 Laurel Grove with daughter Elizabeth.

I do have the write up of her death/funeral from the Southport Visiter

Her sister - Jane Aspinwall – 1818 - April 1899 Southport
Buried - 1 May 1899 Duke Street Cemetery, Southport
Married James Whalley 9 September 1844 St Mary's RC Chapel, Scarisbrick

They had no children but seemed to have helped bring up Margaret’s son William
James died - August 1885 Southport
Buried - 10 August 1885 Duke Street Cemetery, Southport

Census –
1851 census - Fleet Street Lane,  Scarisbrick
1861 census - Fleet Street, Scarisbrick
1871 census - Heathfield Cottages, Kent Road, Birkdale
1881 census - 7 Elm Road, Birkdale



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 2:47 pm    Post subject: Oh well... Reply with quote

I wish they were mine...what a lot of information.  It's good to share!

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Jane and Dotty

I have links with this family as Margaret Aspinall (1878) was  the second wife of Robert Forshaw.  He and his first wife Mary Croft were cousins and are both direct ancestors of mine.  

I did have contact with Jane a couple of years ago and we swapped information, so it is good to see some more info coming through.



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:13 am    Post subject: i say... Reply with quote

Meant to say...love your avatar!    

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Dotty

That is just me at the moment, keep putting things down and forget where I put them.  Senior moments or What!!!!!  

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 11:59 pm    Post subject: Doh... Reply with quote

And there was I thinking it was only me...

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