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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:08 pm    Post subject: William Carr Gun Dealer Reply with quote

I have become intrigued by the following (very) extended family group. In the 1881 census they are at 121 East Bank Street which is a Gun Dealer and Marine Dealer's Store.

William Carr (misspelt Curr) 8/1/15 of Birkdale and the head, presumably the owner.
Sarah Carr nee Blundell 17/4/1814 his wife and a draper.
Gilbert Blundell 30/5/30, Sarah's "baby" brother.
(Margaret) Ellen Blundell, nee Dow 1/8/1849, Sarah's late sister's daughter.
Annie Blundell age 7, Sarah Blundell 4 and Gilbert Blundell 2, all the children of Ellen and Samuel (who was in Kirkdale Prison).
George G Blundell age 12 - don't know him.
And finally James Dow, Ellen's brother.

If anyone has this group in their history, I would be interested to know more about the business and how long it remained in the Carr/Blundell/Dow hands. Also why was Samuel in prison. And who is George.

Any takers?


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Germaine



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Found on the criminal reg on ancestry.
Samuel Blundell's trial was on the 3 Jan 1881. He was imprisoned for 4 months for.
Obtaining money and good by false pretences.
Before convited of a felony
Liverpool county sessions 18th Jan 1881
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't take them but a few suggestions

1 - you could try looking at local directories in the reference library. It should list the store. You should also be able to see if/when William Carr had a different address. They usually have an alphabetic list of people

2 - You might have to send for a birth certificate to find out who George was - or see if you can find him on other census.
I had a quick look for him in 1871 and there is a George Gilbert Blundell aged 2 born Heyward with parents George (rag & bone dealer born Southport) & Sarah Ann born Manchester at 64 York Street, Heap, Heyward

Maybe this helps?

3 - I think you might find more about why Samuel was in prison at the Lancashire record office in Preston. If you found out when he went there might be something in a local paper

Hope that helps



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mjayt7



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Germaine and Jane,

Two mysteries nearer to being solved.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lancashire records Office have the bill of costs.
Bill of costs of prosecution of Samuel Blundell for larceny  QSP/4096/51  c1881

If you email them and ask for a quote they will send you a form so you can order a copy.
I got one a few year ago the cost then was £2.50 I think it may depend on how big it is.
It was quite interesting too.
Good luck
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http://www.nationalarchives.gov.u...rches/locresult_details.asp?LR=55


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Sandyken



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have an idea that the Blundell connection ties in with Gill Blundell, Seed Merchant of Eastbank Street.  The number 121 would put it in the approx location of these premises.

A Gill Blundell , who, later, had a stall in the Southport market, lived/ lives in CocKle Dick's Lane, Southport and a daighter is married to a Geoffrey Lloyd, a local magistrate who wrote a history of Churchtown Congregationa Church.

He is a member of the Society and perhaps someone could look up his contact details and pass them on?


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Contact details.........Please can I add that I don't think it a good idea to send any one's contact details.

People's details should never be sent without their permission

I am always happy to forward your details to Geoff and he can then make contact if he wishes





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