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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:56 pm    Post subject: Wrights of North Meols Reply with quote

I have just joined today but on finding this site a couple of days ago I came across reference to this database:

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/c...=SHOW&db=park&recno=13521

I just want to thank the person who posted it - I can't find the posting again but I have found out more about the Wrights in one evening than in the last 5 years of research even with the help of the excellent publications purchase from the North Meols FHS. Does anybody know how  this database is? Certainly it fits all the data I had already gleaned.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

welcome to the forum

The Park data base is fantastic. It has been compiled by Joyce Otterstrom in America. She must spend hours & hours doing the work.

What is it you want to know?



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I missed out a crucial word - what I wanted to know is how accurate the database is though I have no reason at all to think t isn't. I'm claiming all these ancestors the easy way and it just seem to good to be true. A very special thanks to Joyce Otterstrom.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope I speak for others on the board. I think Joyce is one of the most diligent and conscientious researchers you could wish to find. She has personal interests in North Meols genealogy (and is probably distantly related to many of us on the forum!).

North Meols genealogy is a tricky business at best - a fairly closed community for centuries the intermarrying between the families is at times mind-boggling and difficult to follow. Joyce's work is (and probably always will be) a "work in progress". It represents the best interpretation of the available data at any one time. She is always ready to receive amendments and corrections; it is not "set in stone". Hope that helps!

Back to my bottle of cabernet sauvignon...

Brian


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 10:39 pm    Post subject: Well... Reply with quote

I have seen this answer given many times in the past:

Although she has done her best, Joyce admits that her database may have errors and encourages users to check their own family lines.  If they find any errors she welcomes being told.

I was also over the moon with the information on this database.

Hope you continue to be lucky...

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for the reassurance. The database is a "work of art". My family tree has doubled overnight.
I have a snippet from a relative who has done some research and he quotes  
" - a description of Churchtown school around 1900 contained this revealing sentence ' there were so many Wrights and Rimmers that they had to be numbered' ".
I think that just about sums it all up.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hae taken up the famly tree again from the Park database andd have come across the following under Edmond Wright:

Edmund Wright one hearth in 1666 one hearth in 1673

Can anyone tell e what it means please?.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder if it was to do with the hearth tax - yes they even had that. You obviously paid an amount depending on how many you had.

There was also a window tax at one time



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anybody know what are Joyce's sources of info. Presumably she has access to the St Cuthbert's registers and there are references to wills but is there anything else?


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Jane I didn't know about that. I have just googled and come up with the following which fits in with the dates perfectly. You learn so much social history when doing family trees.

http://www.devon.gov.uk/index/com.../local_tax_records_hearth_tax.htm


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joyce gets a lot of her info from the Mormon records at Salt Lake City (where she lives).  They have copies of many of the English Parish records, Hearth Taxes, Wills etc.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you look at the bottom of the pages you will find the references for the information regarding the parish registers etc.  In the cases where people have sent in transcriptions of wills she puts "Research of..........".

You will, therefore, find a few familiar names popping up in your searches of the database.

I must add that she doesn't edit transcriptions - they are published as sent (unless the Rootsweb software finds something, usually formatting, incompatible), so you need to basically check the transcriptions yourself as many are inaccurate and sometimes have lines missing which you will find if you look at the original document.  Having said that - if you haven't immediate access to the original and/or you can't actually decipher it, then these transcriptions are a wonderful source of information.



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for clarifying the process. I was looking at Bryan's contribution about the ancestry of Mary Ellen Rimmer (my Gr. grandmother) and when you start going back through the generations for say a Robert Rimmer it must be a real headache.
Is North Meols uniquely blessed having Joyce on our case or are there other Mormons beavering away at other parts of the UK? If so I must find out who is the Kings Lynn guru for my Scott and Shilling side!


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ray green wrote:
I was looking at Bryan's contribution about the ancestry of Mary Ellen Rimmer (my Gr. grandmother)

Although Joyce put my name, it's was really a joint effort by the "Greens of Ainsdale" bunch; I think I managed to slip Ray's & Jo's names in
ray green wrote:
Is North Meols uniquely blessed having Joyce on our case or are there other Mormons beavering away at other parts of the UK? If so I must find out who is the Kings Lynn guru for my Scott and Shilling side!

Joyce has a personal interest - her grandfather (I think) was a NM man. She is distantly related to most of us someway or other. So many North Meols people made the crossing
Brian




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