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42aitch



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 6:56 pm    Post subject: Sefton/Hodson Reply with quote

Could anyone find a marriage for Teresa Sefton to William Hodson probably around 1887 in Birkdale. It would probably be in the Roman Catholic Church. I have found what I think is Teresa on the 1891 Census but the marriage records for Southport are not on Free BMD.
Eileen




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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I moved this so it appeared under the correct letter.

A couple of points

I think you are confused about FreeBMD. These are taken from the GRO indexes by volunteers. Most years for marriages are done but if you look on their pages you can find out which years have been transcribed.

I had a quick look at the 1891 census for a Teresa Hodson and there is only one but she is living in Preston with her parents.

The only way to find the marriage is to check the GRO indexes. From your location maybe Crosby or Liverpool library would be the best places for you to go. They have the fiche for births, deaths & marriages.



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry about putting this in the wrong place, I was thinking of the Hodson name. I know that I can get the marriage from the fiches, in fact I have Ancestry UK and I can check this. However I just hoped that someone on this site might already have the information. I presume that the marriage would have been at St. Joseph's RC church in Birkdale as I have found other family marriages there but am not able to get to Southport library at present to check. I will check the indexes on Ancestry and then I should have a date, I also found this Teresa Hodson on the census for 1891 as you state.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 1:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

took a quick look on Ancestry and Lancs BMD plenty of william Hodson's but not one Teresa Sephton. with little info you gave it is hard to do anything else.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you put a little more information on here I may get the chance to check the register at Preston.

When were either of them born for example? Have you got them on the 1881 census? Do you have any children for them - birth years? Anything you may think of that would help.

I think she is on the 1881 - aged 14 at home with Step parents

1891 - I can't find her under Sephton/Sefton or Hodson.

There are no marriages for Teresa Sefton or Sephton on Freebmd either.

So I wonder if she actually married or where she disappeared to?



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi
I have now found Teresa Hodson (nee Sefton) born 1867 in Tarbock, Lancs on the 1901 Census at 124 Linaker Street, Southport.
Husband William H Hodson born abt 1862 in Southport.
Children Frederick H, age 13, Jane, 10, Wm H, 6, Arthur, 4, Jane Hodson Mother aged 64 born Wigan. I also found them on the 1891 but Teresa was transcribed as Foresa. Also on this census were Ellen Forshaw age 22 and Margaret Forshaw age 16 as boarders. These were step sisters of Teresa. I am still looking for the marriage of Teresa and William and assume it would be in St Joseph's Birkdale. I must try to get to Southport library to get this information.
Thanks for all your responses
Eileen


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1871 England Census

Name: William H Hodson
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Relation: Son
Father's name: Thomas
Mother's name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Southport, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: North Meols
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
Town: Southport
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View image
Registration district: Ormskirk
Sub-registration district: North Meols
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 3
Household Members: Name Age
Margaret Bailey 57
Frederick M Hodson 4
Jane Hodson 35
Jarvis Hodson 11
Nathan Hodson 2
Septimus Hodson 8 months
Thomas Hodson 36
William H Hodson 9
John Scarisbrick 56
Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 3875; Folio: 29A; Page: 1; GSU roll: 842031.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have traced the Hodson tree back to the 1780s in Tarleton if you'd like any further information.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would be grateful for any information you have.  I have sent you a PM with my e-mail address

Thank You
Eileen


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1871 CENSUS
Threase Sefton
Age: 4  
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Stepdaughter  
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: Tarbock
Civil parish: Tarbock  
Ecclesiastical parish: Whiston St Nicholas  
County/Island: Lancashire  
Country: England  
Robert Forshaw 27  
Mary Forshaw 36  
Ann Sefton 13  
Mary Sefton 12  
William Sefton 10  
John Sefton 8  
Threase Sefton 4  
Ellen Forshaw 2  
Robert Forshaw 1  
George Billington 21  

RG10; Piece: 3856; Folio: 6; Page: 4


This is a complicated family, all these stepchildren

Am I right in saying that Robert married Mary Sephton in 1867
she died  and then he married Margaret Sumner 1878

Still cannot find Teresa's marriage though
Found a Theresa Hodson marrying in 1890  
There is also a Thomas Hodson there too
Wigan 1890 Sept 8c 62


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Eileen,I've sent you a pm in reply


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Yvonne

Yes, Robert Forshaw did marry Mary Sefton in 1867 and then after her death married again in 1879 to Margaret Aspinwall.  Mary Sefton (nee Croft) was a widow with 7 children when she married her cousin Robert.  

Margaret Aspinwall was also a widow when she married Robert and had two Sumner children and another illegimate son.  

That is where all the step children come from.

The Teresa Hodson that you found I don't think can be related.  Teresa Sefton married in 1887 to William Henry Hodson and died in 1917 and I don't think they had a daughter Teresa.  They appear to have stayed in Southport so Wigan would not be correct.

Thanks for your interest.

Eileen




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