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André



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 8:39 pm    Post subject: My families (Rimmer, Rymer, Sumner, Sawyer, Tasker) Reply with quote

I'm looking for any information on the following families (their children, their grandchildren + spouses and parents of spouses):

Robert BLUNDELL & Alice RIMMER married 25-10-1848 North Meols
Peter RIMMER & Ellen (MILLER) TASKER married 09-07-1828 North Meols
James MEADOW(S) & Isabella SUMNER married 14-11-1814 North Meols
Thomas WINROW & Elizabeth/Betty SAWYER married 03-10-1810 North Meols
Elizabeth/Betty (SAWYER) WINROW remarried to James MARSHALL 16-09-1823 Formby
Ellen MILLER & Henry TASKER married 28-10-1806 North Meols
Barnaby MARSHALL & Mary RYMER married 30-01-1810 North Meols
Thomas RYMER & Alice HOWARD married 10-09-1788 North Meols
Thomas SUMNER & Ellen CADWELL married 30-06-1794 North Meols
Thomas SAWYER & Priscilla JOHNSON married 05-11-1777 North Meols
James MARSHALL & Jane RYMER married 21-07-1766 North Meols
Thomas RIMMER/RYMER & Ann BALSHAW married 01-02-1785 North Meols






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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

......... amd add a few days

However - the Meadows connection rings bells - will reurn :?:



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André



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SeaCopRimmer wrote:
......... amd add a few days

However - the Meadows connection rings bells - will reurn :?:

By the way, I'm not asking anyone to search for me (busy doing that myself since I joined Ancestry.com), but maybe somebody out there already has a lot of info on any of these families? It may look like a lot, but I've only the one granddad from North Meols and he himself had just three grandparents from the North Meols & Ormskirk area.

There are more Meadows under M to P


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I recognize many of the names you listed.  You should check the Park database done by my friend Joyce Otterstrom.  She has over 18,000 names in her database, and it's pretty much confined to the North Meols, Lancashire area.  Go to www.rootsweb.com and under Family Trees enter "Park" in the database search box.  The research is amazing, including wills and bastardy court records, etc.  Good luck.



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 11:35 pm    Post subject: Yoo hoo... Reply with quote

The Park database has a link which is available on the Park thread on this forum.

Joyce has been a boon to me and my family history but I believe you yourself have also been a huge help, Tom, and for that I thank you.

Andre, I am just getting to these families on my tree so I have no 'flesh to add to the bones' yet.  I shall watch and wait!

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andre
I think you have links to my database already. Much of it is of course based on Joyce's work, but Tom & I have been busy extending the lines towards 1900 - Meadow(s) Bartons, Sumners, Spencers &  Taskers our speciality
Brian

(PS Thomas Sumner & Ellen Cadwell are my GGGGgrandparents - if you manage to track down Ellen's origins shout very loudly!)


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BrianG wrote:
Andre
I think you have links to my database already. Much of it is of course based on Joyce's work, but Tom & I have been busy extending the lines towards 1900 - Meadow(s) Bartons, Sumners, Spencers &  Taskers our speciality
Brian

(PS Thomas Sumner & Ellen Cadwell are my GGGGgrandparents - if you manage to track down Ellen's origins shout very loudly!)


I was working on the Taskers in the census returns the other day (the descendants of Henry Tasker and Ellen nee Miller) and will continue with them in the coming week.

I'm still thinking that Ellen Cadwell could be the daughter of Robert Cadwell/Caddel and Isabella but since our Ellen is born 1791-ish according to the census of 1851, she doesn't seem to fit in where she should. There is also no son named after a Robert.

Thomas SUMNER & Ellen CADWELL are my GGGGG-grandparents via Isabella Sumner, Mary Meadows and Edward Parker, Elizabeth Parker, etc.

Andre



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

André wrote:

I was working on the Taskers in the census returns the other day (the descendants of Henry Tasker and Ellen nee Miller) and will continue with them in the coming week.

If you want to take a shortcut anytime feel free to check my stuff - the Rootsweb or Tribalpages trees are up-to-date I think, though still plenty more people to chase.

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I'm still thinking that Ellen Cadwell could be the daughter of Robert Cadwell/Caddel and Isabella but since our Ellen is born 1791-ish according to the census of 1851, she doesn't seem to fit in where she should. There is also no son named after a Robert.

Possibly - seem to recall I thought that the 1791 "slot" in Richard/Isabella's family was already occupied, but there aren't many other options; and if she was from "out of area" I'm sure the 1851 census would have mentioned it.
Brian


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Yvonne



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 6:52 pm    Post subject: Question re Lawrence/Laurence Sumner 1867 Reply with quote

Brian and or Andre

I have Laurence 1867 on my tree, son of Robert and Isabella according to census.
Laurence married into my Howard line

Question, have you any idea who Robert's parents are?

I have found a marriage of a Robert and Isabella Campbell in 1861 but that was in Manchester.

Robert on census was born c1838 but cannot see him on 'Park'


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Yvonne
I don't think I have any of them...if Robert was c 1838 & is not on Park, maybe he was an outsider
Brian


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BrianG wrote:
If you want to take a shortcut anytime feel free to check my stuff - the Rootsweb or Tribalpages trees are up-to-date I think, though still plenty more people to chase.
Brian


Thanx Brian, I'll make sure I do that as I go along.
Andre



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

André wrote:
I'm still thinking that Ellen Cadwell could be the daughter of Robert Cadwell/Caddel and Isabella but since our Ellen is born 1791-ish according to the census of 1851, she doesn't seem to fit in where she should.
Andre

I agree Robert & Isabel are the prime candidates for Ellen's parents. Her birth year should be around 1771/2 by the 1851 census  (not 1791, she was 79 in 1851)
In the Robert & Isabel production line 1772 is clearly taken by daughter Isabel (chr 7 Jun 1772). However there is another daughter Isabel chr 20 Jan 1788; and I cannot see the death of the first Isabel. Could the first one be a mistake in the register? putting the mother's name in twice??
Just a thought
B




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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 10:53 pm    Post subject: Hello Reply with quote

Hi Andre

I have been looking up my St Helens ancestors this week and have had a very good response from their website.      

You have been so good to our forum visitors and I really hope you're successful with your search too, good luck and good hunting!  

TTFN

Dotty    



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 1:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BrianG wrote:

In the Robert & Isabel production line 1772 is clearly taken by daughter Isabel (chr 7 Jun 1772). However there is another daughter Isabel chr 20 Jan 1788; and I cannot see the death of the first Isabel. Could the first one be a mistake in the register? putting the mother's name in twice??
Just a thought
B


Hi Brian

I have come across this a lot - the most likely explanation is that the bit of paper that the burial details were written down on before someone entered them into the register simply got lost.  I have lots of lines with no burial record for a child but there is another one later on with the same name.  I know SeaCop can cite one instance of a family with 2 living children who had identical names, but my experience has been that where that happens, the first child with that name has died.  Sometimes you get three and even four with the same name.



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with Bez - generally the first-named has died and the next male/female to be born takes that name;  the instance I have of two 'living' same namers is that the eldest had left home - so the house was without a William





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