Slewegen / Sleewaegen

Germaine · Joined: 28 Jun 2006 Posts: 749 Location: Fleetwood

Hi I am really stuck I have a
William ( Guillaume ) Sleewaegen (sometimes spelt Slewege/an) born London in 1868 but by 1871 in Liverpool.
He is married to Hannah and they have a son Henry Wright Slewegen in 1998
Hannah was Hannah Wright first married married to William Eley who died 1890. A North Meols family
1901
W Slewegen abt 1866 London, England Visitor West Derby, Lancashire
his wife in 1901 is in Blackpool with her son.
by 1911 she is with a daughter from her previous marriage in Liverpool a widow and no sign of the son
SLEWEGAN, HANNAH MOTHER IN LAW WIDOW F 57 PRIVATE MEANS LANC SOMT LPOOL
I have searched and searched and can't find a death for father or son.
though there are more family with this name there aren't many deaths listed??.
I have started to go through the BMD index page by page but ancestry is being so slow .
I wondered if there is anyone with any ideas and if anyone has ever heard of the family . Wonder if he had his business in Southport or Liverpool Hannah looks to have died in Souhport.1921. Please.
Have posted on Liverpool forum too.
Germaine
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Jane · Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 10:03 pm Post subject:

A few suggestions

1 - Maybe his name has been mis-spelt in the death indexes

2 - What was his occupation?

3 - i could have a look in a directory - when do you think he may have lived in Southport?

4 - When did Hannah die - other than the year. I could see if I could find a death notice or funeral write up - they often tell you interesting or useful things

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Germaine · Joined: 28 Jun 2006 Posts: 749 Location: Fleetwood

Hi Jane thanks so much would b great if you can find something..
Have tried every combination on his surname.
Have had a some info on Liverpool forum which finds the son.
Marrying in Canada in 1926 he was adopted by his Grandmother (even though his mother was still alive.).
OK what I have.
William married Hannah Eley nee Wright in Leigh 1897 but their son Henry was born in Southport in 1898.
In 1901 mother and son visiting in Blackpool father in Liverpool a visitor a fish salesman.
I thought maybe they had moved to Liverpool as that is where Williams family were but on thinking about it though Hannah was there in 1911 she died in Ormkirk district so I think she may have still had business in Southport. pre 1911
Henry is adopted by his grandmother when he was 7 making it about 1905/6 so I imagine this is shortly after his father died.
His mother Hannah already had the fish business before her marriage so it could be the name of the business was Eley maybe they kept the name?
Aslo wondered if they had a fish business did he go out and catch their own fish could he have ben lost at sea.
all I have on Hannahs death

Deaths Jun 1921 (97%)
Slewegen Hannah 66 Ormskirk 8b 898
Hope you can understand my gobble

Germaine
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Yvonne · Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 364 Location: Southport

Germaine,
I have been on Ancestry Phone Books and there is a
W.Eley Fishmonger, 5 Princes St. listed in 1928

Germaine · Joined: 28 Jun 2006 Posts: 749 Location: Fleetwood

Oh thanks Yvonne so it does look like the family business kept going . Hannahs first husband was William and they had a son William.
Looking more like William Slewegen died in Southport area doesn't it.
Thanks again
Germaine
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Jane · Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:06 pm Post subject:

Well I shall make anote to search the local directories and try and find that death next week.

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bobg · Joined: 12 Apr 2007 Posts: 141 Location: Canada

In the 1914/15 Street Directory there is a William Barlow Eley, salesman, at 13 Eastbourne Road. No Slewegens or variations.

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Germaine · Joined: 28 Jun 2006 Posts: 749 Location: Fleetwood

Thanks Jane.

It does look like the Eley name carried on in Southport like Yvonne found. I found son William in Preston in 1901 but back Ormskirk in 1911.
Germaine
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ray green · Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 11:47 pm Post subject:

I went to Holy Family school with a bunch of Eleys. I think there were eleven children. I remember they used to go to the bread shop with a pillowcase!

Germaine · Joined: 28 Jun 2006 Posts: 749 Location: Fleetwood

Thanks Bob didn't see your reply you posted the same time as I did .
So it looks like Hannah was still with her daughter in Liverpool in 1914/15.
Also looks like the younger Slewegens all started to use the name Brown.

Good heavens Ray 11 of them no wonder they needed a pillowcase for the bread.

Germaine
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Jane · Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:54 pm Post subject:

I had a look in the Southport Visiter for Hannah's death/funeral. Sorry there doesn't appear to be anything.

And no one called Slewegen/Sleewaegen in the directory 1900/1910/1920

I can't say I'm surprised they changed their name but it doesn't make things easy for you to research does it?

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Germaine · Joined: 28 Jun 2006 Posts: 749 Location: Fleetwood

Thanks Jane perhaps she didn't warrant going into the paper

Will have to get her death cert and see where she was when she died.
It is listed as Ormskirk so I presumed it was Southport.
Could be she only went there later on just before her death.
Will it say then if she was a widow ?
Though if he did do a runner then maybe she passed ehrslefas a widow for years.
No you are right if he has changed his name to Brown heaven knows where he ended up.
Thanks again
Germaine
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Someone on Liverpool foudn this but I can't fnd any trace of him going out there so don't know.
California Voter Registrations, 1900-1968
Census & Voter Lists
Name: Guillaume Slewegan
Residence: 1920 - San Francisco County, California, United States

California Voter Registrations, 1900-1968
Census & Voter Lists
Name: Guillaume Slewegan
Residence: 1921 - San Francisco County, California, United States

Jane · Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 7:03 pm Post subject:

Well of course it may have been somewhere in the area and not actually Southport. I'm never sure how the funeral reports got into the old papers. I know the family have to put in and pay for the death notice but maybe it is up to the newspaper about funerals.

I know that on a death certificate now it would say widow of etc but I'm not sure about the 1920's. They may have altered what information is on like they have with age, birth date.

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Germaine · Joined: 28 Jun 2006 Posts: 749 Location: Fleetwood

Yes she coul have gone anywhere in the area.
Like you say depneds on what they said too they may have said she was a widow though she may not have been.
could be they diodn't want to spend money on putting it in the paper. Tehy may not ahve been able to afford .
Didn't make life simple did they.
Germaine
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SeaCopRimmer · Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:24 am Post subject:

I've just noticed the dates when the name change took place - during WW1! Could it be that it was thought they were of German/Jewish extract and changed their name to protect themselves from abuse (as shown on WDYTYA by Rick Stein)? I know of a German male who married a Rimmer and she was shunned (certainly during the war years) by her family because she had married a German and one of their sons went off to America to avoid the jibes?

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