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| animal168 |
Alice Abram b.1847Hello FolksI am a bit stuck. i am working my way through some notes my cousin Sheard Sumner has given me and i have a problem. He has in his notes George Sumner marrying an Alice Abram in 1780 daughter of James Abram and Jane Whittle Alice was born in 1759 and died in 1810 aged 65 (making her born in 1747) Having had a look on Ancestry there are loads of family trees that give Alice Abram b.1747 as the daughter of Laurence Abram and Jennet Bond. I have looked through the parish registers and the 3 Alice Abram's there married Richard Wright,Robert Wright and George Sumner. How can I untangle this and pin down the correct parents of the Alice Abram that married George Sumner? One idea i have is the memorial inscription for Alice Sumners death in 1810 may have a clue. Are these memorial inscriptions available anywhere? Any help appreciated Regards Dave Graham |
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| jodylloyd |
Park DatabaseDon't know if this will help or not...... it's from the Park Darabase:ID: I12644 Name: Alice ABRAM Sex: F Birth: in Crossens, North Meols, Lancashire, England Christening: 29 APR 1759 St. Cuthberts, North Meols, Lancashire, England Note: 1 chr 1759 Apr 29 Alice d. of James & Jane Abram of CrossensPage: page 31_UID: 17C1794FADEB449097A3758BC72317579EF9 Change Date: 16 FEB 2009 Father: James ABRON b: in North Meols, Lancashire, England c: 14 Feb 1730/1731 in St. Cuthberts, North Meols, Lancashire, England Mother: Jane WHITTLE Marriage 1 John JOHNSON b: 1752 Married: 1 NOV 1786 in North Meols, Lancashire, England Children Henry JOHNSON b: in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England c: 24 JUN 1788 in St. Cuthberts, North Meols, Lancashire, England Elizabeth JOHNSON b: in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England c: 11 JUL 1790 in St. Cuthberts, North Meols, Lancashire, England James JOHNSON b: in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England c: 16 OCT 1791 in St. Cuthberts, North Meols, Lancashire, England Betty JOHNSON b: in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England c: 9 JUN 1793 in St. Cuthberts, North Meols, Lancashire, England John JOHNSON b: in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England c: 13 SEP 1795 in St. Cuthberts, North Meols, Lancashire, England John JOHNSON b: in Blowick, North Meols, Lancashire, England c: 11 MAR 1798 in St. Cuthberts, North Meols, Lancashire, England Thomas JOHNSON b: in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England c: 18 MAY 1800 in St. Cuthberts, North Meols, Lancashire, England William JOHNSON b: in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England c: 24 OCT 1802 in St. Cuthberts, North Meols, Lancashire, England Robert JOHNSON b: in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England c: 24 NOV 1805 in St. Cuthberts, North Meols, Lancashire, England Sources: Type: Vital Record Title: The Parish Registers of North Meols 1732-1812 transcribed by F. H. Cheetham, Preston 1934 Location: FHL Best wishes Jo 
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| animal168 |
thanks for that its helpful confirmation of my suspicion
I have just checked with my cousin and he agrees that he has the wrong parents down in his notes. Pity he didn't tell me that before I posted my essay above 
what is the Park Database by the way? regards dave |
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| Germaine |
Hi Dave so we must be related too I have just been speaking to Sheard on the phone.
The Park Data base is invaluable. It is by Joyce L. C. Otterstrom So much info off parish records. Woudl take years to read it all. Germaine x 
http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ance...op=SRCH&db=park&surname=A |
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| animal168 |
hello Germaine
I know he just spoke to you, when i got through to him after you yacked for an hour he told me 
its all sorted now, made a mix up between us somewhere. When you get a minute we can have a cup of tea and compare notes. I am in Blackpool but work in Fleetwood. Email me at animal168 at btinternet dot com Regards Dave |
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| BrianG |
I'd just add that it is quite likely that the Park database is the ultimate source for most of those Ancestry trees! Certainly is for mine 
PS that George Sumner is my GGGGG-uncle, but I have not yet started on his family PPS hmm - Park database has the Alice Abram who was daughter of Lawrence & Jennet as married to Robert Wright. It's getting late, need sleep, maybe all will become clear in the morning |
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| Dotty |
Lucky you...How nice to meet up with a rellie on the internet.I hope you get that cuppa, Germaine... TTFN Dotty 
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| Bez |
Re: Alice Abram b.1847
We have no inscription recorded as yet for an Alice Sumner. Sorry |
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| animal168 |
thanks for the input folks
much appreciated |
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| Germaine |
Hi Dave. I know I thought would just ring and see who he was, was on the phone ages.
Turns out we once met in the library and another time in the cemetry. That would be good to compare finds and have a brew too. Wlil email you. Yes Dotty will have to keep him to that. Germaine x
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| clockpelter |
have just ct sight of this thread and am reminded of a line from the Rubaiyet
"I entered a room with doctor and saint- and heard great argument but oft left thro the same door in which I entered"!! In other words - who please is The Alice Abram who wed George Sumner/ - nice to see another blue on the site.
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