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Bez

Blundell's Updated

Anyone following one of the Rimmer threads will know we got sidetracked by John Blundell - there being several of them. Reference was made to Joyce Otterstom's "Park" database on Rootsweb

http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi

and I checked my own John Blundell who had been assigned the wrong date of birth.

I have pointed this out to Joyce and we are currently sorting them out. She will be updating the database very soon.

I have said this before and I will say it again - if you find a mistake on the database and can show Joyce why it is wrong, she will make the necessary alterations. She has done meticulous research with the material available to her (just look at the references for some lines) but new information is coming to light all the time which helps to make the database more accurate.

You will find details of Wills and Bastardy Bonds on there, many of which have been transcribed by other people and she will publish them with the transcribers or researchers name appended so you will know who came up with which details.

However, any of us can make a mistake and I think that most of us would prefer to have the mistake pointed out and corrected rather than go off down a blind alley - so please use the database as a starting off point and double check the lines which link to you, and if you find a mistake and can show Joyce why it's wrong, please, please let her know.
Dotty

Well said...

A plea from the heart, Bez.

I hope family historians take note...

Dotty
BrianG

Re: Blundell's Updated

Bez wrote:
Anyone following one of the Rimmer threads will know we got sidetracked by John Blundell - there being several of them.


oops my fault - trouble is they kept getting involved with those Rimmers. Thought I'd managed to avoid them, now they are popping up all over the place

Brian
Bez

Who? The Rimmer's or the Blundell's?

No, don't tell me, I know it's the Rimmer's - I have got about 5 lines now to them - I think they have pervaded every other family in the area.

The question shouldn't be "do you have any Rimmer's?" but rather "Have you any line that doesn't have one?"

Even Dotty who was feeling really left out has now found a Rimmer connection.
BrianG

So, to avoid getting this thread sidetracked to the Rimmers here is my main Blundell line:

Mary BLUNDELL (31/12/1814-6/2/1886) m(2/12/1836) Henry JACKSON
William BLUNDELL (ch20/5/1793) m(30/11/1812) Margery BARTON
William BLUNDELL (ch10/8/1765) m(?) Mary ?RIMMER? possibly
John BLUNDEL (ch7/3/1735) m(15/1/1755) Alice HUNT

Brian
Bez

Hi Brian

I am related to you through Alice Hunt as I descend from her uncle Edward Hunt, down to John Hunt the husband of Peggy Blundell who was the daughter of John Blundell and Ann Wright.

John Hunt and Mary Blundell were 4th cousins.
BrianG

Bez wrote:

John Hunt and Mary Blundell were 4th cousins.

That's part of the problem / fun of North Meols genealogy. I suspect most people are related down more than one line My great-grandparents Nathan Jackson and Ellen Halsall were themselves 8th cousins, as far as I can tell. Ellen's parents were both Halsalls and according to Joyce O she and I are related on both lines :gogol: It gets confusing
Brian
Bez

Yes, it was the same with Edward Hunt and his wife, Catherine Barton, being 3rd cousins once removed. They were both descended from Henry Hunt of Much Hoole.
Bez

Joyce Otterstrom has been busy updating the John Blundell's (well she's done mine) so anyone with one of them in their tree should check to see if the information has changed.

She did say that it makes more sense now with the new information.
BrianG

Bez wrote:
Joyce Otterstrom has been busy updating the John Blundell's (well she's done mine) so anyone with one of them in their tree should check to see if the information has changed.

She did say that it makes more sense now with the new information.


That DOES now make a lot more sense All I have to do now is work out how to swap the John Bs over in my genealogy programme
UPDATE:
Interestingly JB(1786) and Ann Wright now drop out of my tree altogether, although I am sure it is only a matter of time before they find their way back in! In fact I think you have already given me the answer a couple of posts further up!
UPDATE2
Yup - they are back in, I think on more than one line

Bez wrote:
Yes, it was the same with Edward Hunt and his wife, Catherine Barton, being 3rd cousins once removed

Now, I wonder if I can link your Bartons with mine

Brian
Bez

I've just looked on your website and you list James Huntt the Parish Clerk who was the son of Henery Huntt of Much Hoole. As both Edward Hunt and Catherine Barton are descendents (3rd cousins once removed) then yes, you can link the Bartons who mostly seem to be related to each other. There are exceptions to that statement but I think you should be able to link them. I will have a look as well.
BrianG

Bez wrote:
but I think you should be able to link them. I will have a look as well.

"My" Barton, Margery, was born c1794 (I have her death cert from March 1841, age given as 47). Her marriage is in the 1-Name Extracts for Blundell & Barton; however I cannot find a birth reference, although there is a Margret b 9 Jun 1793.

Brian
Bez

I need to check a bit more but it looks as though "your" Catherine Barton is "my" Catherine's niece. My Catherine was born 1800 (Katherine in the transcripts but in nothing else) and her older brother was Robert, whose children were baptised in several different churches. There is a baptism for a Catherine Barton for 14th February 1813, which I assume is "your" Catherine. That would make her John Hunt's cousin (John being the husband of Peggy Blundell).
BrianG

Bez wrote:
There is a baptism for a Catherine Barton for 14th February 1813, which I assume is "your" Catherine. That would make her John Hunt's cousin (John being the husband of Peggy Blundell).

That is the one - I haven't got her family in yet as she is at the moment only an "in-law" in my tree married to Timothy Rigby, a 5th cousin 4x removed. I suspect in due course she will be found to be an actual closer relative than young Timmy!!
Bez

Yes, I think that's a definite. Robert Barton, the son of James & Peggy (and grandson of Robert and Alice) would have been 20 at the time of marriage. The only other Robert worth looking at was the son of Robert and Alice (ie the brother of James) and he would only have been 14 at the time of the marriage.

Now I need to contact Joyce again, because she lists the 3 baptisms at St Cuthbert's, but there were 2 baptisms at the Independent Chapel on Botanic Road, although it doesn't give the maiden name of the mother. They were Ralph in 1816 and Robert in 1818.
clockpelter


Have just received copy of M/Cert of Marriage of Betty Blundell tp John Abram at Parish Ch.North Meols on 11/5/1867.
Betty is a spinster, aged 21 and the dtr. of John Wareing (Labourer)
Witnesses Thomas Abram and Betty Wareing.
Also Mc of Nanny Brade (26) to John Abram(25) married 30/4/1871 in St.Stephens. Fathers- Hugh Brade(labourer) and William Abram(fisherman)
Witnesses _ James Baxter and Ann Abram
Any use to anyone?
Dotty

Sadly...

Well, not to me at the moment but thanks for sharing your info...

Dotty :grin:

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