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Lynda

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I was telling Germaine about this one, no idea who it is - well, I am hoping its my G Grandparents, found in Granddads belongings - dont suppose anyone can identify the uniform?



Not a clue who this is, but nice picture non the less.



Both needed a lot of restoring, as Dad found them 'in the shed'

Lynda
Jane

Love that first photo. Obviously the man was higher than just a soldier - he has stripes on his arm

Is that a little boy or girl?
sooner

its a boy...short hair short dress and leggings.....girls would have had a longer dress.....taken about 1870's I would guess
dartmoor dave

family picture

hi what a great find at the bottom of the picture did it give the photographers name if so that would help you date it also if it has a pattern on the back that could also help i have been sent a lote of pictures from late 1800s from a relation in jersey i ave put some of them on roots chat some of the members are great at identifying uniforms and there is a photograph section where some members are amazing at dating photos one tip if your trying to get someone to identify uniform if you can get a close up of the cap that helps i can put on there if ou want david
dartmoor dave

oooops no cap

ooops he has no cap well it is early in the morning   david
Lynda

mmh, thanks.  That wrecks my theory then - I had hoped it was the g g grandparents, with the eldest daughter or son as it seems which would have made it my g g granddad.  But as they married in 1891, puts it before that then.

Funny, my Mum asked if it was a boy or girl, I said its a girl of course in a dress - she said he looked like a boy.

Hi Dave, I used to restore on Rootschat before I was hooked by my own tree, my friend Terry on there did a colour version of picture one for me.  They dated it at late 1800's, obviously not as late as I had hoped then.

thank you for looking and helping me out.

Lynda
Germaine

Thank goodness we now don't throw photo's way when we don't know who they are. I have done
I had one of 5 generations and threw it found a copy on a display thought I had that was I mad with myself when I found out what I had done.
Luckily the man at the exhibition gave me the copy better than nothing.
Must take this opportunity to thank Lynda again for the work you did on mine really good.
Germaine
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SeaCopRimmer

I don't think the man is a soldier - I'm sure he would have worn or held a hat/cap if he was in a military uniform and looking at a different photograph on this forum of somebody in a Postman's uniform it's not unlike this one, except the lapels were red on the other one - maybe this guy is a 'high-ranking' postie?
Lynda

Thanks Germaine

'high ranking postie'? mmmh, now thats an interesting thought, my Dad has been wondering about this, as we have the census records going back and no mention of anyone in service, Dad's side were farmers in that era.

Now, if it came from Dads Grandmother her parents were Irish from Caven, she was born in Liverpool but her father in Ireland - Mums theory was it to be unlikely she would bring photo's over from Ireland, wonder what the high ranking posties in Ireland wore then? or could it be something else if Irish?

Lynda
BrianG

could it be a mess uniform? would explain the absence of a cap or hat.

I agree it doesn't look military, there are no identifying insignia apart from his rank stripe and (presumably) service stripes. Maybe the uniform was instantly recognizable from its colour - police?

Brian
sooner

in the first photo I am pretty sure the mothers dress is circa 1870 walking dress/suit with a small bustle.
Germaine

I was wondering with the jacket having stripes at the wrist too.  Could it  be naval?
Germaine
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BrianG

Germaine wrote:
I was wondering with the jacket having stripes at the wrist too.  Could it  be naval?
Germaine
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I think the wrist stripes indicate years of service or some other performance measurement (eg 1 stripe = so many years)
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Germaine

Ahy never thought of that Brian.
Germaine
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Jane

But the other arm has a stripe higher up?

I think it could be the wide white (or light) cuffs on the sleeves that make us think policeman
Germaine

I onder if the Police Museum could help as to whether it was a Police uniform.
Germaine
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http://www.limacharlie.org/index.php?id=1376
BrianG

Jane wrote:
But the other arm has a stripe higher up?

I think it could be the wide white (or light) cuffs on the sleeves that make us think policeman

the single stripe high on the right arm will be his rank.
It doesn't look like an outdoor uniform to me, which I think would almost certainly have headgear of some sort
Yes it was the cuffs which made me think police. Maybe he was not a "beat-bobby" but worked in the police station  
sooner

but  postmen at this time received good service stripes
Lynda

Any clues as to English or Irish though?

From the dates you have given me, its g g grandparents - so still dont know which side till I know that bit.

Lynda
sooner

http://www.rfc-rnas-raf-register....rm%20Identification%20Service.htm
Lynda

Thanks Sooner, that might be worth a try.

Lynda
roam

i think it might be a military band uniform i have a simmilar photo of my uncle and a few others.
Lynda

Thanks Roam.  Any idea of unit?

I have a letter, or at least a scap of paper found with late Granddads belongings and all these photos.  The letter is a referance for a soldier who was a piper in the Seaforth Highlanders for 14 years, we have no idea who this was and there is no date.

Wonder if this is connected then?

Lynda
roam

no sorry im afraid not my uncle was in the hibernian military school from abt 1910 and then was in the east lancs.when i saw you photo it just reminded me of his uniform so i thought it might e a possibility.roam
Dotty

Stuff

Speaking from personal knowledge I know that folk only keep what's important to them.  So if your grandad saved this piece of paper then it was for a reason.  Was it a personal letter or official?  Maybe there is a clue in there somewhere.  

I'm sure somewhere there will be someone who will be able to idenify band uniforms.      

Good hunting.    

Dotty
Lynda

Its just a piece of paper taken from a notebook, written in red ink with Seaforth Highlanders stamp on.  No idea of date or whom it refers to.  From the old photo's I have seen of the Seaforth Highlanders we have no match in the photo's we have.

The name on the reference letter is referring to a 'Lloyd' but cannot make out the initial.  Until recently we did not know any of the immediate Lloyds f that generation served in the forces at all, was never spoken of.

sure is a hunt Dotty, sure I will solve the mystery one day.

Lynda
Dotty

I say...

This is only a suggestion but you could bring it along to a meeting and see what someone else makes of the initial.  Some of our members have worked with doctors and you know what terrible writing they have!

I like a bit of a mystery myself...

Dotty    
Lynda

Worth a try - will do that Dotty

Lynda

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