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| Graham1 |
Foster FamilyHiI am trying to build on the Foster family up to now i have William Foster abt 1823 (my ggg grandfather) married Margaret abt 1827 both southport/north meols children from from that marriage.... Jane abt 1848 Ann abt 1850 Thomas abt 1851 (my gg grandfather) William abt 1854 Henry abt 1856 James abt 1859 Joseph abt 1860..... Thomas abt 1851 married Mary Jane Marshall (birkdale) abt 1851 children from that marriage.... Margaret abt 1876 Jane abt 1878 Gilbert abt 1879 (my g grandfather) Ann abt 1881 William abt 1882 Dorothy abt 1883 Henry abt 1890 (all born Birkdale) Gilbert married Laura Webster b1881 Shropshire Children from that marriage... Ethel 1908 (married Hadfield) Thomas 1910 (my grandfather) Kathleen 1913 (married wright) Thomas married Mary Rimmer b1920 Children from that marriage Laura Foster Sylvia Foster William Foster....William is known as Billy and is well known in Southport area for fishing etc Any help with the above would be very very appreciated GMeath@aol.com Graham |
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| Dotty |
Good news...Hi GrahamWelcome to the forum. I see in your family history you have a Rimmer. This is good news as our Rimmer specialists are sure to be able to throw some light on your tree. Seacop is away at the moment but due back any minute so expect a reply from her. Bez is also sure to get in touch. TTFN Dotty 
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| Graham1 |
Hi
Many thanks for getting in touch with me, any help or advice would be appreciated with either Foster or Rimmer. Mary Rimmer my Grandmother as far as we know was given up at birth so we know nothing about her or her birth family, alls we know is her birth was registerd in ormskirk. We dont know if she was given to a member of the family/other, though her mothers maiden name is given as rimmer. Any way like i said any help/advice would be fantastic. Many thanks Graham |
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| unsworth |
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
Name: William Foster Estimated birth year: abt 1823 Year of Registration: 1895 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun Age at Death: 72 District: Ormskirk County: Lancashire Volume: 8b Page: 507 England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983 Name: William Foster Year of Registration: 1848 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Ormskirk County: Lancashire Volume: 21 Page: 390 Dorothy Croft 1848 Jan-Feb-Mar Ormskirk Lancashire Alice Forshaw 1848 Jan-Feb-Mar Ormskirk Lancashire Margaret Foster 1848 Jan-Feb-Mar Ormskirk Lancashire William Foster 1848 Jan-Feb-Mar Ormskirk Lancashire Mary Liptrot 1848 Jan-Feb-Mar Ormskirk Lancashire Henry Lunt 1848 Jan-Feb-Mar Ormskirk Lancashire John Richardson 1848 Jan-Feb-Mar Ormskirk Lancashire James Slater 1848 Jan-Feb-Mar Ormskirk Lancashire |
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| Jane |
From that list Unsworth it appears William Foster married a Margaret Foster. Wonder if they were cousins? | ||
| Bez |
Re: Good news...
Really Dotty, you must think we are miracle workers - have you any idea how many Mary Rimmer's there are? My own grandmother was one! Did it give any name for the father on her marriage certificate? |
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| Graham1 |
Hi
I am afraid not, we have no information what so ever, alls we know is she was born 16th September 1920 and her mothers maiden name was also Rimmer. Is it possible they may be a service i can access to look at old records? As far as my mother is concerned my grandmother told her children that her parents died in a car accident (not many cars around in 1920) but we feel she was given up or fosterd out at a very young age. Probably to a family member or to a family friend (just a feeling i have). The only information i have found on her is in the Births for 1920 and that is how i got the previous information. I know it is very little to go on and quite probably (certainly) will never find out about her parents or if she had brothers/sisters. Thanks Graham |
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| baxtersp |
Margaret FosterHello GrahamThere is a baptism for a Margaret Foster born 1828 at Churchtown Congregational Church - From NMFHS extracts from Churchtown Congregational Church, Baptisms : 1825 - 1840 Sep 17 1828 Margaret d. of John & Ann Foster (Brookfield) b. Apr 22. Tailor of Churchtown (April 22nd was her birth date, and she was baptised 17th September. Tailor was her father's occupation and Brookfield her mother's maiden name.) I think I've found this family on the 1841 Census, I'll email you the Census page. I don't have much on this family yet, but if this is the Margaret that married William Foster it's odd they didn't name one of their sons John after her father. Steve Baxter |
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| Graham1 |
Hi Steve
Got the e-mails, many thanks i really appreciate it, like i said i am new to this and information is coming thick and fast FANTASTIC, I have noticed i do have a few Williams and Thomas's in the Foster family as well as margarets etc. always wondered why my brother and i have the same middle name, makes sense now. Thanks to everyone who has sent me information so far i really do appreciate it all Many thanks Graham GMeath@aol.com |
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| Graham1 |
What would you say is the best place to get further information from (if it is possible) would it be worth my while to visit St Cuthberts and if so would i need to make an appointment and/or do i contact?
Any guidance would be fantastic Graham GMeath@aol.com P.S (unrelated to Foster) Would anyone know of any sites i could visit for the family name MEATH, i have found Mark Meath my ggrandfather born Liverpool (1862 i think). Again thanks Graham |
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| Jane |
If you want to consult the parish registers then Preston is the place to go. The Lancashire record office.
http://www.lancashire.gov.uk/education/record_office/ I always try typing a surname into Google. Amazing what you find. I actually found a web site hosted in New Zealand by a 4th cousin I knew nothing about. Made contact with a few distant cousins that way. And of course you could always take a look at what the society sell - you never know what may be of help. |
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| Bez |
I have sent Graham an email with the contact details for St Cuthbert's - can't put it on the forum because it is the private number of a church member.
I don't think that William and Margaret Foster were buried there, but they may well have been married in the church. For surnames - I would look at http://genforum.genealogy.com/ You never know your luck. |
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| Graham1 |
Bez and Jane
Many thanks for the information, i am sure i will get something out of it all. Many thanks again Graham |
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| HodgePodge |
MeathMark Meath was with wife Jane in 1901 in Bowker's Green, Aughton.Mark Meath. 39. head. Marr. Cattleman on Farm. Liverpool Jane Meath. 38. Wife. Marr. Halsall Jane Smith. 68. M in Law. Wid. Halsall Annie Smith. 10. Dau. Aughton William Meath. 8. son. Aughton Jessie Meath. 6. Dau. Aughton Ethel J Meath. 10m. Dau. Aughton Mark Meath married Jane Smith at Aughton, 4th July 1892. In IGI it states that Mark's father was John, but the following records don't indicate this, if the Liverpool birth is accurate. in 1891 I can only find a Mark Meath born Ireland c1865 and a servant in Aughton, though this does match in age to the only Mark Meath I could find in 1871 in Lancs: 1871, Cellar, 50 Clune St, Toxteth Park, Liverpool Ann Meath. 43. Head Wid. Ireland John Meath. 23. Son. Unm. Labourer. Liverpool Francis Meath. 21. Son. Unm. Painter. Liverpool Mark Meath. 6. Son. Scholar. Liverpool Here's the family (prior to Mark's birth) in 1861 at 15 Heath St, Toxteth Park: Bernard Meath. Head. Marr. 35. Dock Labourer. Ireland Ann Meath. Wife. Marr. 34. Ireland John Meath. Son. 14. Toxteth Park Francis Meath. Son. 12. Toxteth Park James Meath. Son. 9m. Toxteth Park in 1851 at 4 Court No 3 (probably Cambermere St), Toxteth Park Mark Quinn. Head. Marr. 52. Plasterer's Labourer. Ireland Elizabeth Quinn. Wife. Marr. 48. Ireland Francis Quinn. Son. Unm. 23. Mariner. Ireland Mark Quinn. Son. 13. Scholar. Toxteth Park Bernard Meath. Son in Law. Marr. 27. Bricklayer's Labourer. Ireland Ann Meath. Dau. Marr. 26. Ireland John Meath. GSon. 3. Toxteth Park Francis Meath. GSon. 1. Toxteth Park 1841 at Dooley St, Toxteth Park Mark Quin. 60. Lab. Ireland Elizabeth Quin. 35. Ireland Ann Quin. 15. Ireland Francis Quin. 13. Ireland John Quinn. 11. Ireland Mark Quin. 3. Lancashire Elizabeth Quin. 2m. Lancashire As yet I can't locate Mark Meath on the 1881 census in Ancestry, but the LDS site might throw up a match. Mark Meath's birth was registered in West Derby (which covered Toxteth at the time) in Oct-Dec 1863. 2 of Bernard Meath and Ann Quinn's children are in IGI: Mary Ann Meath born 4th Dec 1853, bap 7th Dec 1853 at St Patrick. Liverpool Elizabeth Meath born 20th Apr 1856, bap 27th Apr 1856 at St Anthony, Liverpool As these daughters are missing in subsequent census returns, it's likely they died. There is a death for an Elizabeth in Apr-Jun 1858 in West Derby who looks like a match, but nothing in FreeBMD to match Mary Ann. Bernard Meath died aged 43 in Oct-Dec 1867, West Derby Ann Meath (née Quinn) died Jan-Mar 1893 aged 77, West Derby There are very few Meaths in Lancashire, and most/all seem to be from this family. Mark appears to be the only one who moved to the Ormskirk area, in which case his children were: William James 1892 Jessie 1895 Edward 1898 Ethel Jane 1900 Lewis 1903 Hope this helps. |
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| Graham1 |
Hi Hodgepodge (good name)
Many thanks for your detailed reply with regard to Meath, it has been of great use. Before i got in to all this i would have thought researching my family name would have been easy with it being a rare name (ish). It has been the other way round though, very difficult. Parts of the info you sent me i am aware of Mark was Married to Smith, and i am aware of the children they had, including Lewis who i think was born in 1903, Edward 1897 was my grandfather. Mark abt 1862/3 i also knew of his children but not siblings/ mother/father so i am hoping the names you mention are correct, as that would be fantastic. Alls i know about Mark is his Father, mother or both came from ireland. I suppose one way of finding out for sure would be to get a copy of Mark meaths birth certificate, would that be Crosby i would send the application to would you know? as i have only ever sent of for them to Southport. Again many thanks for your help i will let you know if i get any further information. Cheers Graham Meath GMeath@aol.com |
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| SeaCopRimmer |
Just as an 'aside' - I do know of a living Meath with Rimmer connections? | ||
| Graham1 |
Hi SeacopRimmer
Really, are they in the Southport/Formby area? if so i am 99% certain they are a cousin etc. I have only ever met 3 of my cousins, the first was 22 years ago, another about 20 years ago and one a few months ago. Would you be able to tell me the christian name or name of the mother/father? If they are a cousin the father would be called one of the following. Edward Francis Paul John Anthony Would you be able to tell me if they have done research on the family name meath? Any help would be appreciated Thanks Graham GMeath@aol.com |
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| HodgePodge |
You can order certificates from the local registration office of the event, or any certificate from England or Wales from Smedley Hydro in Birkdale, Southport. The price is pretty much the same, I've always used Smedley because the online ordering & payment facility is better.
Census and BMD records suggest only one Mark Meath born & living in Liverpool, so I'm not sure the certificate would provide you much, if anything, further. I am a little perplexed at the statement on his marriage record that his father was John, as there is no suggestion from the records available that there was a John fathering a Mark (and Mark Meath is a VERY unusual name for the time). Perhaps it's because he was so young when his father died, perhaps his father was sometimes informally known as John. Assuming the one Mark Meath in BMD is the same from the census returns, it's unlikely to give you much that you don't already have... as his mother's maiden name and father's occupation is provided from other records... though it would give the address of his birth. One thing that you say does support the theory that this is the right chap, as Bernard Meath and Ann Quinn were both born in Ireland. |
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| Graham1 |
HodgePodge
Again many thanks, i suppose if i got a copy of Mark Meaths Birth certificate i would have a definate name for his father and mother, and then take the info you have sent/researched for me as a definate yes/no. I know he was called Mark and born abt 1862/3 as a cousin (who i have not met yet) e-mailed me the info from our grandfathers birth certificate. When he mentioned his name Mark i thought it was a strange name to have way back then. What you mentioned about aughton was also the info my cousin sent, but that is all. I suppose to get any further with Mark Meaths parents i would have to find a place of birth in Ireland, and of course date. I have been told it is very different to obtain information in ireland and i would have no idea how to start my research with Ireland, guess i will have to start using google, or get my son to show me?? Again many thanks, and once i get a name i will let you know Cheers Graham Meath GMeath@aol.com |
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| Graham1 |
Hi Hodgepodge
Just to go back to all that info you put forward on this board, i have just been contacted by a cousin today, he did a little research some time ago though could not find this, however he can confirm that Mark Meaths mother was called Anne born Ireland so the info you have given me is fantastic. Many many thanks Graham GMeath@aol.com |
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