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Kevinlloyd

george herbert lloyd - DOB - 11/11/1915

i am trying to trace my fathers family history.   his mum was mary lloyd - dob - 1898.  i think her family lived in poulton road churchtown.  can anyone please help?  

regards  

kevin  lloyd
Jane

Hello Keith. Welcome to the forum

I think we would need some more information. What exactly are you trying to find out? Is it birth/death/marriage or census or what?

Do you live out of the area or can you use the local library?

This will help us know what help you need.
Dev

Ive checked my tree. Unfortunately George Herbert Lloyd isnt on mine, though the name sounds familair
SeaCopRimmer

Dotty and I are in the Library today so will check for you
Kevinlloyd

SeaCopRimmer wrote:
Dotty and I are in the Library today so will check for you
kevin  lloyd thank you very much .All I know  about my father is from his birth cert  he was born 11/11/1915 at 74   wigan road . His mother Mary a domestic servant of 25 bury road southport .No name of the father  the informant was the occupier of 74 Wigan road Ormskirk .  I have looked at the 1901 census  and a Mary Lloyd of the same age lived at poulton road curchtown.  I live  about 60 miles  from southport and with working makes hard to come during the week. thanks again for your help.
SeaCopRimmer

Hi Kevin
Sorry we were really busy today, but will be back there on Saturday - we will have you at the top of the list for our queries - hopefully get back to you with something positive but can't promise.
Dotty

Spolit

We weren't rushed off our feet but the facilities in the library are basic at best.  I waited 11 mins to log onto Ancestry and then had to log out 4 mins later coz that was the only PC available.  I did that one more time and wasn't allowed to log on again as I'd had my quota for the day!

Let's hope we have better luck on Saturday with the laptop...

Dotty    
jodylloyd

Hi

In the 1901 census, there is a Lloyd family at 110 Poulton Road, Southport - Thomas Lloyd - head - 30 - coal carter; his wife - Sarah - 30 (born Marriell? Shropshire), five children - Beatrice M - 7; George - 5; Mary - 3; Maria - 1; Ann - 4 months and Thomas' father - George - 65 - all born in Southport. If this is the right family, I probably can supply a little more information.

Regards

Jo
ray green

Surely Poulton Road is in High Park not Churchtown?
Dotty

Errr...

I think that I would say it is Meols Cop.  I don't think it is either High Park or Churchtown although it is nearere HP than CT.


Dotty  
Kevinlloyd

jodylloyd wrote:
Hi

In the 1901 census, there is a Lloyd family at 110 Poulton Road, Southport - Thomas Lloyd - head - 30 - coal carter; his wife - Sarah - 30 (born Marriell? Shropshire), five children - Beatrice M - 7; George - 5; Mary - 3; Maria - 1; Ann - 4 months and Thomas' father - George - 65 - all born in Southport. If this is the right family, I probably can supply a little more information.

Regards

Jo[


hi  Jo
thank for your reply.  I think  that this could be my family connection.  because mary lloyd is the right age and there are George's in the family.

regards

Kevin
jodylloyd

Hi Kevin

If that's the case then Mary, I think, is the 6th cousin once removed of my husband!!!

PM your e-mail address to me and I'll attach a report from my family history software and you can can check it through to see if it adds up.

Best wishes

Jo
Dev

jodylloyd wrote:
Hi

In the 1901 census, there is a Lloyd family at 110 Poulton Road, Southport - Thomas Lloyd - head - 30 - coal carter; his wife - Sarah - 30 (born Marriell? Shropshire), five children - Beatrice M - 7; George - 5; Mary - 3; Maria - 1; Ann - 4 months and Thomas' father - George - 65 - all born in Southport. If this is the right family, I probably can supply a little more information.

Regards

Jo


Hi Jody,

I was wondering if you have any info on George age 65? Parents, etc? I had that census info saved but so far havnt found if this Lloyd family ties in with my tree.

Regards
jodylloyd

Hi

According to the 1901 census, Thomas was born abt 1870 in North Meols: the only Thomas who appears on the 1881 census is the son of George Lloyd and Ann.

George's age fluctuates across the censuses, however, the only candidates for his parents are Peter Lloyd and Margaret: this Peter being the son of George Lloyd and Ann Leadbetter.

Hope this helps

Jo
Dev

jodylloyd wrote:
Hi

George's age fluctuates across the censuses, however, the only candidates for his parents are Peter Lloyd and Margaret: this Peter being the son of George Lloyd and Ann Leadbetter.

Hope this helps

Jo


Thank you for the reply. George Lloyd and Ann Leadbetter are the branch my family stems from and further back.

I have Peter and Margaret sons Thomas b1840 and George b1843, along with another brother and sister. Does this sound like the right family?

I also havent found the definite connection between George and possible parents being Peter and Mary. Though i agree it seems likely.

Hopefully that wasnt to confusing.
BrianG

Dev
Ann Leadbetter is a 3rd cousin of mine; plus various other members of my extended family marry in from time to time! (mainly Jacksons)

I had a GenesR contact a month or two back from a descendant (I think) of Samson Lloyd & Martha Cropper. Plus I got quite a few dates on Peter Jackson & Mary Lloyd many years ago from a contact (a very distant relative) in Canada, who also recently found me again on GenesR

Does this bunch look familiar:
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/c...SC&db=bgriffiths&id=I5746

Brian
jodylloyd

Hi

Yes - it seems to be the same family. 1841  - Hawside, North Meols - Peter (25), agricultural labourer, living with Margaret (25) and Thomas (5 months). 1851 - Southport, Peter (36), carriage proprietor, living with his wife - Margaret (39), and four children - Thomas (10), George (6), John (4) and Margaret (1). I haven't found them in 1861 but there is a possible death registration for Peter Lloyd - Sep 1866, Ormskirk, Vol 8b, page 723, Peter Lloyd, age 52. There's also a possible marriage registration - Mar 1840, Ormskirk, Vol 21, page 299, Peter Lloyd and Margaret Peet or Rimmer. I guess the marriage certificate would provide the link to George.

By the way, George (who married Ann Leadbetter) is my husband's 2nd cousin 5 times removed - very small world amongst the the North Meols families!

Best wishes

Jo :grin:
Dev

A big thank you to both Brian and Jo. Its given me insight with my Lloyd relations. Its also made me question where i found the info that links me to George Lloyd and Ann Leadbetter thru Robert b1817/1818

Unfortunately i lost a load of information when the computer decided to pack in for good.

Many thanks again
BrianG

Does anyone know if Robert Lloyd (1817/18) married an Ellen Wood in Liverpool 1849? Was she from Poulton -le-Fylde originally?
That would give me a start on another twig!
B
Jane

According to FreebMD - marriages

March quarter 1849 Robert Lloyd & Ellen Wood - Liverpool 20 103

Checked against the GRO indexes -
March quarter 1849 Robert lloyd & Ellen Wood
Registered Liverpool XX 103

The 1851 census has them living on Chapel Street, North Meols
Ellen's birth place is given as Poulton le Fylde

So that seems to fit with what you thought.
BrianG

it does look like the only candidate for the marriage.  Busy tracking them through the censuses now.
Brian

[UPDATED] have uploaded some new stuff to Rootsweb - http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/c...SC&db=bgriffiths&id=I5746

Still a bit stuck on Peter Lloyd & wife Margaret; and can't find good records for the deaths of Robert & Ellen (some close candidates but they were always spot on with their ages)
Dev

Interesting results Brian, in regards to Robert Lloyd and Ellen Wood.

I have them with 4 children though. The oldest child being Robert b1845, unfortunately i cant find where that information came from?  
BrianG

Dev wrote:

I have them with 4 children though. The oldest child being Robert b1845, unfortunately i cant find where that information came from?  

Isn't that always the way?
He should be on the 1851 census with them, but they are on their own. The only Robert Lloyd I can find on the 1851 census who was born c 1845  (apart from a few in Liverpool) is the son of a Peter & Ellen Lloyd, and they were in Birkdale.
Brian
Dev

BrianG wrote:
Isn't that always the way?
He should be on the 1851 census with them, but they are on their own. The only Robert Lloyd I can find on the 1851 census who was born c 1845  (apart from a few in Liverpool) is the son of a Peter & Ellen Lloyd, and they were in Birkdale.
Brian


Now thats got me wondering if ive got my gg grandfather on the wrong branch???  

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