Delboy
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George Lloyd & Margaret TaylorMy grandmother, Alice Lloyd (1883-1966), was the daughter of George (b. c1857/8) and Margaret. She had 4 other siblings, John, Parmnel, Ida and James. I think Margaret was a Taylor from Tarleton, but I'm completely stuck on George. Can't connect him to any of the many Southport Lloyds.
Can anyone help?
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Dotty
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I say...There's a lot of the Lloyd families on the forum lately. I must say it's a change from Rimmers and Wrights... 
Dotty
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Lynda
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I bet Jody can tell you 
I have 2 George Lloyds that I have found so far in mine, not the same dates though, one is b.1889 and the other one b.1899.
Be interested to see were yours are - not studied the list from Jody yet, but sure she can tell you far quicker.
Lynda
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Dev
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Census 1881 Household:
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation
George LLOYD Head M Male 24 Southport, Lancashire, England Bricklayer
Margaret LLOYD Wife M Female 24 Tarlton, Lancashire, England
John H. LLOYD Son Male 2 Tarlton, Lancashire, England
Parnell LLOYD Dau Female 11 m Southport, Lancashire, England
Source Information:
Dwelling 69 Poulton Rd
Census Place North Meols, Lancashire, England
Family History Library Film 1341897
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 3748 / 44
Page Number 32
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Dev
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Ive come across this family before but i cant find George's parents or any connections. Sorry
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jodylloyd
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Hi
I have a possible candidate - George Lloyd (born abt 1858) who was the son of Wickliffe Lloyd and Mary. Wickliffe was the son of George Lloyd and Ann, nee Leadbetter.
Regards
Jo 
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Dev
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Another possiblity is George (b. about 1856) who married Ann Blanchard.
George, son of Robert Lloyd and Ellen Wood.
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Delboy
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Thanks - so far!Thanks for those suggestions. I suppose I ought to get the marriage certificate which will, hopefully, give me the father's name.
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Dev
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Re: I say... | Dotty wrote: | There's a lot of the Lloyd families on the forum lately. I must say it's a change from Rimmers and Wrights...
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It seems theres Wrights and Rimmers within the Lloyd families aswell Dotty, most be a North Meols thing 
Plus its amazing how many rellies you meet online, aint that right Lynda 
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Lynda
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Re: I say... | Dev wrote: | | Dotty wrote: | There's a lot of the Lloyd families on the forum lately. I must say it's a change from Rimmers and Wrights...
Dotty |
It seems theres Wrights and Rimmers within the Lloyd families aswell Dotty, most be a North Meols thing
Plus its amazing how many rellies you meet online, aint that right Lynda |
Spot on Cous'
Lynda
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Dotty
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So near...As I have said before I nearly became a Lloyd and so I feel an empathy...
Dotty :smt010
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mjayt7
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Not sure about George but going back to Margaret, she does seem to be from the Tarleton branch of Taylors and the daughter of Henry Taylor and Parnell Southworth.
Every Tarleton family seemed to have a Parnell dating back at least to the mid 17thC and Parnel Dobson. The churchyard is littered with them.
Obviously it wasn't particularly well known elsewhere as the registrar spelt it Pernall on Miss Southworth's wedding certificate.
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Bez
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You will occasionally come across "Parnell" in the North Meols Registers and census as well.
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Dotty
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Oh...That's interesting...
I read something over the weekend which I found fascinating. You all probably know this anyway but did you know that Rufus usually referred to a red-haired person?
Dotty
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Bez
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I believe that was true of King William Rufus who was slain in the New Forest.
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Delboy
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George Lloyd (m Margaret Taylor)Finally got round to getting marriage certificate.
George was the son of Wickliff Lloyd and Ann Leadbetter. In turn, Wickliff seems to have been the son of George, a bastard son of Susanna Lloyd. Is that where my trail ends, or does anyone know if there was a bastady 'thingymajig' which would name the father.
The register says Susanna of London - London, N Meols, or the big city?
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jodylloyd
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Father of GeorgeAccording to a book I have on the Poor Law Administration in North Meols, Susanna Loyd was delivered of a male child on Thursday 9 Feb and the putative father is given as James Reeve, a weaver of Hindle. Th Bastardy Order was dated 1 May 1797 and awarded £2 10s 9d for childbirth and 1s 3d for maintenance.
Jo
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jodylloyd
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PSThe London referred to will be Little London in North Meols
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Delboy
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George LloydYou can always rely on people here!
Thanks JodyLloyd!
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jodylloyd
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You're very welcome
Jo
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Jane
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Sounds a good book. Where is it from?
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jodylloyd
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BookIt's a slim volume I got at a Family History Fair - on the spine it says 18th Century North Meols Poor Law & Rideout. However, it's obviously come from another book as the page numbers start at page 62 with the piece "Poor Law Administration in North Meols in the Eighteenth Century" by Eric Hardwicke Rideout. The second piece in the book is "Emigration to British North America under the Early Passenger Acts 1802-1842" by Kathleen A Walpole, MA
The North Meols paper includes Certificates of Settlement, Removal Orders, Confirmation or Cancellation of Removal Orders, Bastardy Orders, Confirmation or Cancellation of Bastardy Orders, Bonds, Apprentice Indentures and Miscellaneous. If you're looking for a particular name, I'll happily have a "look-see".
Jo
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BrianG
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Re: Book | jodylloyd wrote: | it's obviously come from another book as the page numbers start at page 62 with the piece "Poor Law Administration in North Meols in the Eighteenth Century" by Eric Hardwicke Rideout.
Jo |
This book perhaps:
Poor Law Administration in North Meols in the Eighteenth Century
by Rideout, Eric Hardwicke
Transactions of the Historic Society of Lancashire & Cheshire ( THSLC ) Volume 81 1930 p62-109
Might help to find it at the library...
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Jane
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Sounds very interesting.
Thanks for the offer of a look up. I can't think of anyone though
NB I did Google search. All I got was Halton library......
I then did a search of Southport library. They don't have it. Well not catalogued. 
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jodylloyd
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Southport LibraryI found it in the on-line catalogue:
Personal Name Rideout, E H
Title Poor law administration in North Meols in the 18th century
DDC current editions S942.72
Publication 1929
Control Number x009659217
Format: Local History
Copy Availability
Southport Library
S942.72 MEO/Rid
Not For Loan
Reference Standard
Items shown in red are not available for loan
I'm guessing the copy I've got is a re-bind of part of this book
Jo
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Jane
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I put the wrong surname in....a real blonde moment - put Hardwicke 
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SeaCopRimmer
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Even if Southport Library didn't have the book you want, they will find one and get it sent over - then you can sit in the Reference Section and read it - at these times it's useful to have a laptop to type up the 'useful' bits; Mr SeaCop asked for a book which was sent over from America (but he could bring it home to read it)
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Bez
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I feel sure that the Rideout papers are actually in the NMFHS library, because I remember borrowing them a couple of years ago.
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Bez
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Re: George Lloyd (m Margaret Taylor) | Delboy wrote: | Finally got round to getting marriage certificate.
George was the son of Wickliff Lloyd and Ann Leadbetter. In turn, Wickliff seems to have been the son of George, a bastard son of Susanna Lloyd. Is that where my trail ends, or does anyone know if there was a bastady 'thingymajig' which would name the father.
The register says Susanna of London - London, N Meols, or the big city? |
My information is that Wickliffe married Mary Lawson and Ann Leadbetter was his mother.
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BrianG
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Re: George Lloyd (m Margaret Taylor) | Bez wrote: | | My information is that Wickliffe married Mary Lawson and Ann Leadbetter was his mother. |
That's what I have too (although FreeBMD has helpfully transcribed it as Cawson) Reference is Liverpool Vol 20 Page 179, Sep Qtr 1849
EDIT: Actually the handwritten index does say Cawson (it's listed under "C" )
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Yvonne
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Think Delboy wrote it the wrong way around
Wickliffe was the son of George and Ann Leadbetter, and as said George was the bastard son of Susanna Llloyd
1841 census
George Lloyd 45
Ann Lloyd 40
Robert Lloyd 20
William Lloyd 20
George Lloyd 15
Abigel Lloyd 15
Wickliffe Lloyd 12
Esther Lloyd 9
Mary Lloyd 7
Wickliffe c1829 must be the one who married Mary Lawson
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