Germaine
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Halsall MysteryHi I have George Meadows being the father to a child born 1791 a daughter to Alice Halsall ( no name). I have looked ( perhaps missed) for a birth but no luck.
I found this family in 1841 and wonder could this be Alice and her daughter ages fit but I have nothing else to verify it. Margery has a few children but never married. Of course the 1841 doesn't say if Alice is a widow or spinster and she seems to have died between census.
Anyone any ideas plese.
Germaine
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Name Age
Alice Halsall
75
Bartholomew Halsall
3
Margery Halsall
50
Thomas Halsall
12
William Halsall
8
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BrianG
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you have probably seen this filiation & maintenance order:
Lancashire Quarter Sessions
PETITIONS
Wigan: Epiphany 1793 - ref. QSP/2317
FILE - North Meols. Order of filiation and maintenance of bastard daughter of George Meadow, miller, and Alice Hallsall, singlewoman - ref. QSP/2317/66 - date: 1791 4 Feb
I love a good Halsall mystery, though it looks like for a change I don't have this one in my line (yet)  Even Joyce Otterstrom has passed dthis one by in the Park database & as you say, there's no record of a baptism, at least in the St Cuthbert register
Brian
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Germaine
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Hi Brian Thanks yes I got that record, got it from the records office but not much more info on it . Did get a date of birth 6 Dec. 1791. Oh and he had to pay £2.1s Laying in (?) and then 10d per week. No nothing in St. Cuthberts though what I did find was the family in 1841 the Margery if it is the right family had a few illegitimate children and if Alice was her mother and never married there is an Alice that age would fit and her mother is Margery. Oh and Margery is the right age too. Looks good but not got anything to verify it.
Oh they didn't make life easy.  Got another Halsall mystery to clear up yet. Will tackle that one later.
Germaine
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Jane
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I am guessing that the lying in payment was for the time the mother was lying in after the birth. Women would have had to spend quite a few days in bed and she may have had to pay someone to help
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Germaine
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Hi Jane Yes I would think it was something like that or to pay for the midwife to come . Must be something to do with the birth itself.
Germaine
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Bez
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| Germaine wrote: | | Oh and he had to pay £2.1s Laying in (?) and then 10d per week. |
Jane is quite right - there used to be a "lying-in" period which covered the labour itself and a period confined to bed - but this was found to cause complications, so it was eventually changed to a period of rest for at least 10 days after giving birth, not necessarily in bed.
In either case domestic help would have been required, especially if there were other small children to be cared for.
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Germaine
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Thanks Bez and Jane. That is that bit understood now.
Now to find out who she was if I can.
Germaine
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