cazza
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Holden, HodgeHi just thought I'd start writing up about my family tree for anybody to help please. I think I am try to find to much information at once.
My father was Harold Holden who was a gents hairdresser on sussex road for 50 years. I have foung my grandfather James Holden born 1880, and his father Robert Holden born 1845, just sorting out this birth certificate but starting this I found out my father married a Hodge 1st marriage had one son then a Halsall for the 2nd marriage thats were I come along
This is where complication arise. My fathers 1st wife and 2nd wife (my mum) mum were sisters complicated or what. When I went for a coffee the other day with Jane and SeaCopRimmer we had a laugh and were
trying to work out whether this was legal.
I only have names up to now of the families, so yes I have to do a lot more researching to do, but its a start. I know its only a list and anybody after 1900 I have not put their date of birth or I dont know them
The lists I have up to now are.
Hodge
Husband John Thomas Hodge born 1867
Wife Clara Birch born 1870
Children
Ada Ellen born 1894
Elizabeth Hodge 1895
Clara Hodge 1898
Isabella Hodge 1899 my granma
Annie Hodge
Cissie Hodge
Billy Hodge
Bobby Hodge
Jackie Hodge
Alice Hodge
Sally Hodge
The funny thing was how I got this information. Where I work a lady knew I was doing the family tree, and said would you like to see the family bible I know who you are. Turns out she is a relative and all these dates were in it but a lot of information was missing. so how nice was that. Also at this time is mentioned a Robert Rimmer 189? so I wonder if one of them married a Rimmer I have nearly all the children listed of the above named Hodges so wonder if any body can help.
Hope you enjoy. cazza
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Dotty
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LegalHi Cazza
Yes, a good tale...What happened to the first wife? If she died then it is OK to marry a sister. In fact, in the bible it is positively encouraged!
If they were divorced then I'm not too sure...but I bet Bez knows! Hope she'll be along soon to give her 4d worth.
Dotty 
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Jane
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She did die but I'm sure on the list I put about who you can't marry one of them was wife's sister - although maybe as you say it is fine if she had died.
Amazing what this hobby turns up though 
Just checked the list -
Relatives-in-law may marry providing both partners are over 21 years old at the time of the marriage and the former spouses (in either or both the cases must be deceased)
So it was okay Cazza 
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cazza
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Hodge and family tree data problem anybody help please ?Yes the first wife died, thats ok then, the next problem is trying to link on the family tree but having none of it can not remember what Jane told me to do to link the same name different areas of the chart to bring them together I am using family tree maker anybody help please. Then the chart may look more realistic.
cazza
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SeaCopRimmer
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Go to 'People' and it should say 'Merge Individuals' and you list who you want to merge with who or where? Can't think completely but will have time tomorrow to really sort it out - the good thing about the programme is that it is almost impossible to lose anybody 
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cazza
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Thanks SeaCopRimmer, I will give it a try.
cazza
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Jane
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First go to the person you want to merge - either one
Go to People
It says merge specific individuals - click that.
Then select the other person with the same name and click merge
I think?..............
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cazza
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I'll give one a try then if that don't work try the other.
Thanks Jane every body is so helpful on here.
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Bez
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| Jane wrote: |
Just checked the list -
Relatives-in-law may marry providing both partners are over 21 years old at the time of the marriage and the former spouses (in either or both the cases must be deceased)
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The Table of Kindred and Affinity in the Book of Common Prayer says that a man may not marry his
Wife's mother
Wife's daughter
Wife's father's mother
Wife's mother's mother
Wife's son's daughter
Wife's daughter's daughter
There is no prohibition on marrying his wife's sister.
Dotty - I believe there are 2 conflicting passages in the Bible about marrying your wife's sister - one encouraging it and the other prohibiting it. Unfortunately I don't have a Concordance to give you the exact quotes.
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Dotty
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BingoWhat did I say about Bez having the answer...I rest my case!
Didn't Henry VIII marry his brother's widow or was it his fiancee?
Answers on a postcard please...
Dotty 
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Bez
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Never mind the postcard........
Henry VIII married Catherine of Aragon who was the widow of his elder brother Arthur (because Henry VII didn't want to lose the dowry she had brought with her). However she claimed the marriage was never consumated and they would have had the necessary dispensation from the Pope (on the grounds of consanguinity). Henry later claimed that he had sinned in marrying her (as his brother's widow) and used this as one of the reasons he wanted a divorce. He did in fact marry Ann Boleyn in secret before the divorce was finalised because Ann was pregnant. When he married Jane Seymour both Catherine and Ann were dead and there was no impediment to the marriage.
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Dotty
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History...Ahh yes, I remember it well...
Thanks Bez, I wish you'd been my history teacher!
Dotty
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