John gregson b 1809

debra66 · John gregson b 1809

Hi everyone

Im fairly new to this so apologize if i do anything wrong

I am looking for the father of a John Gregson born 1809 in the penwortham area

although i realize its not quite your area I obviously know that there are lots of gregsons near you and someone might have come across him in their own research

this is how he fits in

my grandad lewis gregson 1918
son of
joseph gregson 1888
son of
james gregson 1867
son of
james 1831
son of
John gregson 1809 who married Hannah Bradshaw in walton le dale in 1827 havent got as far as the marriage cert yet but have been told it doesnt have father details on it

i know this is a real stumbling block for me and a number of others any help or further info would be greatly appreciated

thanks in advance

Bez

Hi. First of all, there will be no actual marriage certificate as they didn't come in until 1837. Before this date we have to rely on the Parish Register entries, and yes, your information is generally correct in that the registers didn't usually give father's details at that time, although there were exceptions to that rule. A lot depends on the religious denomination as to how much was recorded.

What is needed is to look at the registers and see who had a child with the same name and then have a look at "naming patterns". Wills and burial registers can also provide clues as to family members.

The biggest problem is with the same common first names being repeated in many different family groups.

Good Luck.

SeaCopRimmer

I would think a trip to Lancashire Record Office is in order (that's if you can get there)?

debra66

thanks guys might not be able to get to the LRO got his birth from his grave in preston old cemetry where he and his wife and kids are buried just need to find his parents to link up

thanks again

SeaCopRimmer

I may be going to LRO but not for a couple of weeks, but if you don't mind waiting............

debra66

that would be fantastic I will send what details i have shortly

what do you need that would make things easier

thanks
debs

SeaCopRimmer

Send me an e-mail with as much information as you have and I'll take it from there - obviously I can't promise a result

debra66

email will be sent in the next day or two cant thank you enough

SeaCopRimmer

Went to LRO today but didn't feel so good and left earlier than intended, however:
29.10.1827 - Parochial Chapel of Walton le Dale, by Banns
John X Gregson married Hannah X Bradshaw
by Rendle H Fielden, Curate
Witnesses: William Wilson and James Tomlison
Couldn't get access to the original records and the Lancashire Parish Register Society copy said they were married 11.11.1827?

Keep reminding me and I'll have a look for John's birth next time

Dotty · Busy

I hope you're feeling more like yourself now, seacop.

You did a grand job...

Dotty

debra66

thanks ever so much

beginning to feel better now

best wishes and take care

debs

debra66

hello everyone

does anyone know how i can get further back with this I dont know what to do next basically cant find anything or perhaps im just not looking!!

thanks in advance
debs

Dotty · Where to next?

Hi Debs

I'm 100% sure we can get you back 'further' than you are but I'm also 100% sure you will have to give us something more to go on...

Names, dates, anything you have...do you live locally? Maybe we already know this..but I'm a dozy bovine!

Bring it on girl!!!

Dotty

debra66

hi

i live in sale not a million miles away but not quite local

seecop rimmer found the marriage details of

john gregson born 1809 cuerdon green and hannah bradshaw for me

thanks

but i dont know who his or her parents were and therefore am stuck

between them they had a bunch of children ending up in my grandad lewis gregson b 1919

john gregson and hannah are both buried in preston old cemetry and i have a copy of the grave records i just dont know what to do next

any help will be greatly appreciated

thanks

ps what other info do you need

Jane

That's a case of searching parish records for their baptisms. Not easy with that surname. Maybe census inforamtion gives you a clue as to where they were born so leads onto the parish to look in.

Have you tried the IGI? That is always worth looking at - then you can look at the parish record to make sure the information is correct.

Parish records for Lancashire are held at the Lancashire Record Office in Preston.

Dotty · Good stuff

That just the info we need but as you're in touch with seacop then she'll know what's what.

Are you a member of the society? There are several members who do free lookups for members so it's alway worth considering...

TTFN

Dotty

debra66

hi

how do i go about joining the society thanks everyone you have made me feel very welcome

debra

SeaCopRimmer

You can visit our website and download an application form from there -

www.nmfhssouthport.co.uk

There's lots of information on the website about The Society and also information our publications, library, etc. Good to have you on board :grin:

debra66

thanks will have a look

John gregson b 1809

Busy

Where to next?

Good stuff