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kaiello

John Henry Gillies previously of Wigan b 1881-3

I'm looking for my grandmother's first husband, John Henry Gillies who was born in Wigan 1881-3.  He married Clara Green 1902-3 and we have no information of him after that point.  Clara and John had a son, William Allan Gillies, born December 1903.  We would like to know what happened to John and William.  Thank you.

Regards,

Kathleen
jodylloyd

Hi

There is a John Gillies, aged 27 in the 1911 census in an institution in St Pancras, London - you would need to spend 10 credits to view the transcript - it might be the one you are looking for...............

Regards

Jo
Jane

Looking on FreeBMD

Births - John Henry Gillies  - Dec quarter 1882  Wigan

Marriages - Dec 1902   Registration district Ormskirk 8b 1329
to Clara Green


1911 census - index
There is a William Gillies aged 7 living West derby
But I can't see any Clara........so it may be worth looking to see if this is your William Allan

If you think they may be in Southport let me know & I can check the street directory when I'm next in the library
BrianG

Jane wrote:

1911 census - index
There is a William Gillies aged 7 living West derby
But I can't see any Clara........so it may be worth looking to see if this is your William Allan


Using a neat little trick picked up from the Clwyd mailing list:

The address of that William Gillies is
295 KNOWSLEY RD BOOTLE

Other residents are:
GILLIES AGNES F 1902 9
GILLIES CATHERINE F 1865 46
GILLIES CATHERINE F 1894 17
GILLIES DAVID M 1885 26
GILLIES EUPHEMIA F 1888 23
GILLIES HELEN F 1890 21
GILLIES ISABELLA F 1900 11
GILLIES JANET F 1892 19
GILLIES THERESA F 1896 15
GILLIES WILLIAM M 1904 7


Do these look familiar?

Brian
jodylloyd

Some other possibilities:

1891 CENSUS – 63 Kew Road, Birkdale
Name:William Gillies
Age:41
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1850
Relation:Head
Spouse's Name:Helen
Gender:Male
Where born:Scotland
Civil Parish:Birkdale
Ecclesiastical parish:St Peter
Town:Birkdale
County/Island:Lancashire
Country:England
Registration district:Ormskirk
Sub registration district:Formby
ED, institution, or vessel:12
Household Members:
William Gillies - 41 – house painter – born Scotland
Helen Gillies – wife -  33 – born Southport
John Gillies – son - 8  - born Wigan
Maud Polick – adopted daughter – 2 – born Ormskirk
Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 033; Folio 9; Page 11; GSU roll: 6098143

1901 CENSUS – 90 Chatham Road, Birkdale
Name:William Gillies
Age:52
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1849
Relation:Head
Spouse's Name:Ellen
Gender:Male
Where born:Scotland
Civil Parish:Birkdale
Ecclesiastical parish:Birkdale St Peter
County/Island:Lancashire
Country:England
Registration district:Ormskirk
Sub registration district:Formby
ED, institution, or vessel:16
Household schedule number:166
Household Members:
William Gillies - 52 – house painter
Ellen Gillies - 43 -
John Gillies – 18 – domestic gardener
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 3533; Folio: 175; Page: 27

jodylloyd

And.......... in 1901 at 170 Kew Road, Birkdale - Clara Green (17), dressmaker, lived with her sister - Margaret Green (21), dressmaker, cousin - Ada Lloyd (27, born Birkdale) and unmarried aunt - Alice Ball (62, born Birkdale), table mat maker

kaiello

Re: John Henry Gillies

Jane,
Thank you for alerting me of the responses.
Thank you to everyone for your research and replies.  I have not been on in a few weeks, and no longer receive notification to my email address that I have replies.  I'll investigate all these leads.  Clara left England in October of 1911.  I assume that the 1911 Census was out by then.  She had given her nearest relative's address as 42 Clifford Rd, Birkdale, home of Margaret (William) Gregory.  Clara left William Allan Gillies, her son, with one of her sisters to raise.  We never knew what happened to John Henry, her husband.
Regards,
Kathleen

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