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| André |
My families (Blundell, Ball, Balshaw, Bibby & Cadwell)I'm looking for any information on the following families (their children, their grandchildren + spouses and parents of spouses):Peter BLUNDELL & Annie BURTON married 22-08-1876 Southport Robert BLUNDELL & Alice RIMMER married 25-10-1848 North Meols Alice (RIMMER) BLUNDELL remarried to William JOHNSON 02-04-1857 North Meols John BLUNDELL & Anne WRIGHT married 22-01-1811 North Meols Robert BLUNDELL & Alice HOWARD married 06-08-1771 North Meols Robert WRIGHT & Jane BALL married 04-02-1788 North Meols Thomas SUMNER & Ellen CADWELL married 30-06-1794 North Meols Thomas RYMER & Ann BALSHAW married 01-01-1785 North Meols James MARSHALL & Ellen BIBBY married 21-07-1766 North Meols Peter BALL & Alice Ann BLUNDELL married Quarter Jun 1904 Southport James Albert RIGBY & Ada BLUNDELL married 06-03-1913 Southport John BLUNDELL & Mary Ellen IRELAND married Quarter Sep 1880 Liverpool |
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| BrianG |
Thomas Sumner & Ellen Cadwell - my gtx4 grandparents (through daughter Betty)
Have a look here http://www.briangriffiths.co.uk/genealogy Much is stll from "Park" but I have now amassed a lot of census data to corroborate the later generations. The "GedMill" version of the tree has most of the census data attached. Brian |
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| André |
Many thanx Brian, I bookmarked the page and will start studying it more closely starting tomorrow. 
If I have things that don't appear in your database, do you want them from my notes or would you rather wait for when I finish putting it all in a gedcom file (the latter may take me a week or three more)? |
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| BrianG |
Hi Andre Thanks for the offer - I'll wait until you have made sense of it all 
The GedMill version is up-to-date; I'm going through the others uploading the most recent databases at the moment Brian |
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| André |
Re: My families (Blundell, Ball, Balshaw, Bibby & Cadwel
Could never find the parents of Annie BURTON born in Manchester around 1852. I now think she was already living in Southport in 1871 at no.20 (?) Bold Street as a servant with Joseph BIBBY and his wife, but given the wrong surname BURTLES by the enumerator. The link to her possible parents in Manchester is rather shakey because there is no match with the father's name in her marriage certificate. |
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| Bez |
Re: My families (Blundell, Ball, Balshaw, Bibby & Cadwel
I think Joyce Otterstrom and I have now finished sorting out the little bit of a mix up that she had with the different John Blundell's. (this was because she only had dates of death up to 1837) If you have a look now you will find updated information. http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ig...?op=GET&db=park&id=I11082 |
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| André |
Re: My families (Blundell, Ball, Balshaw, Bibby & Cadwel
Thanks Bez for making the update and for the link. I didn't yet have the first Joseph Blundell baptised in Ormskirk Wesleyan in 1818, son of John Blundell & Anne Wright. The rest confirms what I already had in my notes. :grin: My ancestor Robert Blundell (born 1826), brother of Peggy (born 1816), married Alice Rimmer 25 Oct 1848 St.Cuthbert North Meols, daughter of Peter Rimmer & Ellen Miller and he died 10 March 1854 aged 28 years of consumption. Alice then remarried to William Johnson 02 April 1857 St.Cuthbert North Meols. |
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| Bez |
Steve Baxter has a photo of a grave in St Cuthbert's churchyard with both Joseph's on it.
Peggy (born 1816) was my gr gr grandmother, so if Robert (1826) was your gr gr grandfather, then we are 4th cousins. |
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| André |
I'll ask Steve if he'd like to send me a scan of that photo! Robert, the brother of your Peggy was my granddad John Blundell's (1902-1961) great-grandfather, so my gr.gr.gr. grandfather. Only about half of my granddad's ancestors are from North Meols, but looking for the families of all my ancestors' children and grandchildren, I am finding relatives of him all over North Meols (also Birkdale and Ainsdale). When it's done, I want to make a list of all the North Meols pages in each census year on which my relatives appear. |
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| Bez |
Then we are 4th cousins once removed. Nice to meet you.
You might like to contact Joyce Otterstrom and give her details of Robert's wife and children - it could lead to you finding out more from other family members. |
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| André |
Nice to meet you too! :grin: (that's not a "grin" by the way but a smile  )
I think I will do that later today, great idea. |
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| BrianG |
Hi Bez
Minor point in Joyce's database. There is a son listed as Peggy's, John Blundell father unknown. Gives christening date as 16 Aug 1840, burial 29 Jan 1844. However the narrative from the source (ie you :grin: ) says "burial 1844 January 29 John Blundell of Park age 29" Could just be a misprint somewhere (or I've completely misread it, wouldn't be the first time  )
Brian PS by my reckoning Peggy B is my 2nd cousin 5x removed. What does that make us I wonder? 
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| Bez |
Hi Brian - you are quite right, a misprint on Joyce's part. I will notify her about it.
Baby John was born on July 21st 1840. His mother is named as Margaret Blundell - as on the baptism record. However, he must be Peggy's as her elder sister (who was actually called Margaret) died aged 2 years. I sent for the birth ceertificate to see if it gave any more details regarding an address, but it just says Churchtown, North Meols. Going by the first baptism register for the Independent Chapel this would indicate the heart of the village (Chase Heys was described as being "near Churchtown") and this is borne out by the 1839 Tithe Map and the 1841 census. The burial register entry just says John Blundell of Park aged 3 years. This is the only child named John Blundell who was buried inbetween 1841 and 1851. The 2nd son from her marriage to John Hunt was also called John. Peggy was my gr gr grandmother - it depends on who our common ancestor was as to our actual relationship to each other. |
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| Bez |
Got a reply from Joyce - she had corrected the age of baby John Blundell following my response to her report way back in June, but she hadn't republished the database as she was wanting to add more info before updating it. She says she will get it done and hopes it won't cause too many other changes/discrepancies.
Brian - have you come up with a common ancestor yet so I can work out our relationship to each other? |
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| BrianG |
Of course this bit of the tree is pillaged wholesale from Joyce's database and I have not checked it, so usual caveats apply Brian |
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| Bez |
I haven't checked this line out either, yet.
Which of William and Ann's children are you descended from? As they are my 5x gr grandparents you could be my 6th cousin once removed. |
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| BrianG |
Elizabeth HOWARD (1736-1811) m Peter HALSALL. Their s Henry (b1779) m Jenny WRIGHT, and their son James (b1808) m (1832) Betty SUMNER. from there I am on much firmer ground! Their son Thomas married into another branch of the Halsall clan. It is on both these Halsall lines that Joyce reckons she & I are connected
Brian |
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| mother |
Are your Balshaws from Altcar? | ||||