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André

My Rimmers/Rymers

I'm looking for any information on the following families (their children, their grandchildren + spouses and parents of spouses):

Robert BLUNDELL & Alice RIMMER married 25-10-1848 North Meols
Peter RIMMER & Ellen (MILLER) TASKER married 09-07-1828 North Meols
Barnaby MARSHALL & Mary RYMER married 30-01-1810 North Meols
Thomas RYMER & Alice HOWARD married 10-09-1788 North Meols
James MARSHALL & Jane RYMER married 21-07-1766 North Meols
Thomas RIMMER/RYMER & Ann BALSHAW married 01-02-1785 North Meols
SeaCopRimmer

........... if you can give me a fortnight
Yvonne

Have you looked at this site?

http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=park
André

Yvonne wrote:
Have you looked at this site?

http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=park

Thanx Yvonne, yes, I googled it up after someone mentioned it here. I haven't spent much time searching there yet because I'm still occupied feeding all I found on Ancestry.com (census data and BMD data) into my family tree programme (so I can send cousins and more distant cousins Gedcom files).

Searching the English data bases is so much more tentative than the Dutch ones. It makes me feel I'm groping in the dark half the time.
I wish the contents of birth, death and marriage certificates older than 100 years would become freely accessable to the public in England as they are over here in Holland. That would make many of the lines I found more secure and open up new ones. Shouldn't we start a lobby to get free access to the older BMD data?
Jane

André Blundell wrote:
Shouldn't we start a lobby to get free access to the older BMD data?



If you go on Ancestry.co.uk you will find the birth/death/marriage indexes are there to search for free.

FreeBMD also has a lot too but not completely done. They are being transcribed by volunteers.


www.ancestry.co.uk

www.freebmd.org.uk


There is also a beginners guide to researching your family tree on the society web site - www.nmfhssouthport.co.uk

And now you have found so many connections to North Meols you may find it beneficial to join our society. Full details on the web site.
André

Jane wrote:
André Blundell wrote:
Shouldn't we start a lobby to get free access to the older BMD data?

If you go on Ancestry.co.uk you will find the birth/death/marriage indexes are there to search for free.

I mean the actual information from actual entries. I want the full names of the fathers from a marriage certificate, the maiden name of a bride from a marriage certificate, the age in a death certificate from before 1866, the actual dates from an entry and not just a quarter and a year, the ages from the spouses in a marriage certificate, etc..

I already spent over 700 pounds acquiring the certificates of my English ancestors (not including travel costs) and zero pounds on the information from about double the certificates on the Dutch side (they started in 1811). If I wanted to do the same for all the brothers, sisters, nephews, nieces and cousins (as I did on the Dutch side), it would cost me many thousands of pounds extra. Plus the frustration when you're not sure which is the right entry.

Why are the authorities keeping the older information under lock and key so people have to pay large amounts of money for genealogical information? Is it to keep all those people staffing the offices employed and happy? Or is it maybe a question of privacy or perhaps just tradition?
Jane

I'm not sure which is the correct reason but we all know the frustration.

Obviously British registration started later. The early records didn't include mother's maiden name or father's surname except on the actual certificate

Only a couple of weeks ago I sent for a marriage certificate from the 1840's. When it came I couldn't read half of it so was very disappointed. And I agree about the cost. Surely after that amount of time if not free they should be a lot cheaper. No one will be living so no risk of invading privacy and not much use if trying to use them for a new identity.

I think you will find most family researchers share your view - and it sounds like the Dutch records are much easier & cheaper to obtain.
André

Jane wrote:
I think you will find most family researchers share your view - and it sounds like the Dutch records are much easier & cheaper to obtain.

The actual Dutch certificates aren't really that much cheaper than the English ones. But the older certificates (older than 100 years for births and marriages and older than 60 years for deaths) can be viewed in every local archive on film and photo-copied for a small fee.

For some provinces volunteers have transcribed the contents of the certificates and put them on the internet. These are accessible free of charge.
Dotty

Corrr...

How very civilised of the Dutch. Any hobby costs money and you can't put a price on enjoyment...and it's better for than smoking!

TTFN

Dotty :grin:
André

Re: Corrr...

Dotty wrote:
Any hobby costs money and you can't put a price on enjoyment...and it's better for than smoking!


Smoking is also a waste of resources, I agree. Access to genealogical sources should be a right, not a luxury.

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