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Old Tim



Old Tim the garbage man
Dotty

I say...

Tim who?

When I was a girl I can remember the binmen coming with a rounded topped vehicle drawn by a Shire horse.  There was a dustman called Mr Ball who used to call the horse on from one stop to the next.

Dotty
Jane

what is he holding? A medal?
BrianG

Jane wrote:
what is he holding? A medal?

 look again! Though I doubt it's Pepsi; slightly odd grip

He also has a watch on a chain
Jane

Ah yes
Dotty

I say...

I noticed his odd way of holding the glass.

It could be that he has his change from the bar in his palm or he could have some sort of contracture of his hand...Bez will put me right on the correct medical term to use.  I think the right hand looks a bit different too.

It could help in identifying him...

Dotty  
BrianG

Re: I say...

Dotty wrote:
I noticed his odd way of holding the glass.
Dotty  


I have been experimenting   It's certainly possible to hold a pint glass fairly stable that way, but I don't think I would recommend it for any length of time.

Brian
ray green

What neat brickwork behind him, look how thin the joints are. My grandad called that "buttering" ie you put the mortar on as if you were buttering bread.
Bez

Re: I say...

Dotty wrote:
I noticed his odd way of holding the glass.

It could be that he has his change from the bar in his palm or he could have some sort of contracture of his hand...Bez will put me right on the correct medical term to use.  I think the right hand looks a bit different too.

It could help in identifying him...

Dotty  


I expect you are thinking of Dupuytren's Contracture of the palmar fascia, aren't you Dotty?
SeaCopRimmer

Bez - is that the disease which people who have Viking heritage are likely to get?   I know that Margaret Thatcher had something like that and she's supposed to be descended from Vikings?
Bez

It used to be thought of as "The Painter's Disease" and a well known local man (now deceased) had it as well, thought to be from operating a lever, but this has now been disproven.

While it is true that there is a familial tendency to the condition, according to the Mayo Clinic website there are no genetic markers to identify who might be at risk.
silverhammer

On another site I found another pic of "Old Tim" and it said this:

Here's one of My Grandad Thomas Lloyd better known as
............ OLD TIM.......


I think he was quite well known on his "Patch". On the back of the photograph it says:

Near Wellington Inn Southport
mother

A Kiwi friend of ours has it  (Dupuytren's Contracture of the palmar fascia)
Dev

silverhammer wrote:
On another site I found another pic of "Old Tim" and it said this:

Here's one of My Grandad Thomas Lloyd better known as
............ OLD TIM.......


I think he was quite well known on his "Patch". On the back of the photograph it says:

Near Wellington Inn Southport


Where did you find the other site? More curiously how do you get Tim from Thomas?  
silverhammer

http://www.southportforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50385451

The other site, scroll down for another pic of "Old Tim". I don't know how Tim comes from Thomas, a nickname that stuck I guess.
Jane

How is he related to you then silverhammer?

I know a few of us use the Southport GB site so I had seen that thread before
silverhammer

No, not related to me. Just a random picture that was in my Grandmother's collection, she came from Southport. Why "Old Tim" was there I'm not sure but he was obviously a character reasonably well known so I guess she took it for posterity.

I happened to find the other site recently with a posting from a relation of "Old Tim" (different picture). I tried to make contact but no reply.

I have a lot of pictures from Southport, some from the 1920's and a few from the late 1940's when my grandmother went back for 5 years. I shall post as and when.
Dotty

I say...

You mentioned the brickwork Ray.  It is probably Accrington Red brick and the mortar is hardly visible...something to do with the shape of the brick on it's inside surfaces.  Lots and lots of houses in Southport have been built in that.  I've heard that it is no longer manufactured.

Yes, Bez, that is exactly what I was meaning.  My father had it too but wouldn't have the op.  He was born in Poland so could well have had 'a touch of the vikings' in him.

Brian, I thank you for your diligence in researching the holding of a pint glass in that fashion...

Eh...the things we do for family history!

Hope we all had a Happy Easter,

Dotty    
silverhammer

My Grandfather on my father's side had that condition with his hands, and he was descended from Manx (Vikings??).

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