PETER RIMMER 1821-1892 & MARY MURPHY 1835

mary · PETER RIMMER 1821-1892 & MARY MURPHY 1835

hope you don't mind me joining in the rimmer search

but i'm at a bit of a wall with my rimmers

PETER RIMMER abt 1821 southport; marries MARY MURPHY b galway,ireland (no marrage found only found a bridget murphy?)
they lived in sephton street and tulketh street and he was a builders labourer.peter has a brother called NICHOLAS RIMMER b1829-1894 he marries a MARY RIMMER B1823,found 5 children for them.they maybe a sister nanny/ann?

children of peter rimmer and mary murphy;

WILLIAM 1857 (baker)

MARY ELLEN 1860

ELIZABETH ANN 1862-1946, her last address was 20 west street,she had lived their about 35 years.

ALICE; 1866. on 1881 census she is living with her aunt NANNY HALL b abt 1821 the address is marshide lane nanny is a widow, i have found a ann rimmer marrying a william hall.ALICE may not marry as a miss alice rimmer attends elizabeths funeral in 1946

THOMAS 1869 (corporation worker)

PETER 1874(furniture brokers aprentice)

i carn't come forwards or go back,has anyone else seen/in this line
thank you

SeaCopRimmer

I'm sure this query has been here before - but I'm away from home until tomorrow and I'll check my Rimmer query file and get back. Just checked my files on the laptop - this is the family of Linda who is a poster on here - try sending her a pm

mary

thank you for that

i may be wrong as i don't know how to check who is on this site.but i think i am the lynda you have on your lap top,if i got in contact a few weeks ago through another forum and we spoke on the phone.
is it you who has already helped me with the infomation on elizabeth ann etc?

SeaCopRimmer

Hi - I think you might be right

Will be in touch when I get back to Southport - I was at The National Archives yesterday and didn't get far, so not much news really; however, we'll stick at it

mary

hello! thought it may be you :grin:
sorry to here your visit was uneventfull

i'm still plodding through to no avail,i am trying to find my dads cousin who i think still lives in southport,she may be able to shed some light on other family members of elizabeth?ordered some more certificates(peters death and nicholas and marys marrage),i will let you know when they arrive.

lynda

mary

i now have nicholas rimmers marrage certificate(brother of peter and ann/nanny?)
nicholas rimmer marries mary rimmer on
9th june 1851,at christ church

nicholas aged 22,bachelor,occupation servant,residence birkdale.father john rimmer,occupation;brewer

mary aged 26,spinster,residence birkdale.father peter rimmer occupstion shoemaker

in the presence of;
william rimmer and catherine heaton.

anyone familiar???

mary

this is my list of rimmers this is mainly a two family split,some are my line and the others are a married line,a lot of the dates are census,but if their is any familar people please let me know.thank you

Name Birth date Birth place

Rimmer, Ada 1870 Southport, Lancashire, , England
rimmer, ada phyllis 1925 Southport, Lancashire, England
rimmer, alice abt 1866 North Meols, Lancashire, England
Rimmer, Alice 1864 Southport, Lancashire, , England
Rimmer, Alice 1858 Southport, Lancashire, , England
Rimmer, Ann 1861 Southport, Lancashire, , England
Rimmer, Ann 1836 Scarisbrick, Lancashire, , England
rimmer, edward 1899 southport,Lancashire, England
Rimmer, Edwin 1863 Southport, Lancashire, , England
rimmer, elizabeth ann 18/8/1861 north meols,southport,lancashire
rimmer, ellen abt 1860 Birkdale, Lancashire, England
Rimmer, George 1853 Southport, Lancashire, , England
Rimmer, Gilbert 18 Aug 1845 Ormskirk, Lancashire, , England
Rimmer, Henry 1849 Southport, Lancashire, , England
Rimmer, Henry 1856 Birkdale, Lancashire, , England
Rimmer, Hugh 1854 Birkdale, Lancashire, , England
rimmer, james 1809 Birkdale, Lancashire, England
Rimmer, James 1836 Southport, Lancashire, , England
rimmer, james 1894 Birkdale,North Meols,Lancashire,England
rimmer, james abt 1864 Birkdale,North Meols,Lancashire,England
Rimmer, James 24 Sep 1862 Southport, Lancashire, , England
Rimmer, Jane 1859 Southport, Lancashire, , England
Rimmer, Jane 1850 Southport, Lancashire, , England
Rimmer, John 1844 Southport, Lancashire, , England
rimmer, john 1896 Birkdale,North Meols,Lancashire,England
rimmer, john
rimmer, john 1862 Birkdale,North Meols,Lancashire,England
Rimmer, John 1857 Birkdale, Lancashire, , England
rimmer, margaret abt 1858 Birkdale, Lancashire, England
Rimmer, Margaret 1839 Southport, Lancashire, , England
Rimmer, Margery 1841 Scarisbrick, Lancashire, , England
rimmer, mary abt 1855 Birkdale,North Meols,Lancashire,England
rimmer, mary abt 1823 Birkdale, Lancashire, England
rimmer, mary ellen abt 1860 North Meols, Lancashire, England
rimmer, nanny abt 1821 north meols,lancashire
rimmer, nicholas abt 1829 Southport, Lancashire, England
rimmer, peter abt 1821 North Meols, Lancashire, England
rimmer, peter 1874 Southport, Lancashire, England
rimmer, peter
Rimmer, Thomas 1861 Southport, Lancashire, , England
rimmer, thomas abt 1869 north meols,Southport, Lancashire, England
rimmer, thomas 1898 Birkdale,North Meols,Lancashire,England
rimmer, unknown 1900 Lancashire, England
rimmer, william abt 1857 Southport, Lancashire, England
rimmer, william 1900 Birkdale,North Meols,Lancashire,England

mary

update ;
anyone have rimmer connections with west street

on the 1911 census
MARY RIMMER nee MURPHY is living
22 west street,aged 79, widow, occupation,householder.
she has her son
WILLIAM RIMMER aged 57(should be 54 to earlier census records?) single, occupation; baker, living with her.

on checking seeds

22 west street stays in the family as mary' daughter
MISS ALICE RIMMER has it in the
1924-25
1927-28
1933-34

mary' other daughter mary ann drittler nee rimmer lives at 20 west street.

no22 changes hands somewhere between 1934 and 1955 as in the 55 it belongs to a mrs edith hall

Dotty · I say...

The name Drittler strikes a bell...

I'm sure someone else has Drittlers...time will tell.

Dotty

mary

i think may be me also

bobg

In the 1914-15 Seeds, 22 West Street, Mrs Mary Rimmer, Apartments.

In the same year there is a George Drittler, boot repairer at 9 West Street.

Hope this helps

SeaCopRimmer

I think that may be the George Drittler who went to America; dotty - it is the same person researching this family as the previous one (the name has been changed to protect an innocent)

Dotty · OK

Well, I'm glad it's you Mary...I just remembered the name. You never know when you need these little bits of information...

Hope you're successful in tracking down these pesky people!

Dotty (doing her bit)

mary

SeaCopRimmer

I spoke with my nephew's wife the other day and she says she remembers visiting relatives in West Street - part of the Drittler family (she believes). My mother often said that my niece and her family and our family were related? Now, of course, I am trying to find the link?

mary

when i found 22 west street belonging to mary ann rimmer' mother then sibblings.it brought me back to the group picture taken in west street.not all people are named yet(mostly the right hand side of photo are not accounted for.
i also have a couple of pictures of two ladies who are the the group picture possible mother and daughter? but not drittler' ?? maybe rimmer' from next door?? they seem very nicely dressed.
i have asked all i know in the family but nobody knows who they are.
i will scan them and send you copies if you think they are possible rimmers as well.
you have the group picture from west street?
dead centre is mary ann drittler nee rimmer,on HER left is the lady i have other pictures of and the younger lady on the end,the pictures are of the 2 of them together?
also don't know who the lady is on her right?.could it be her sister alice?
maybe your nephew's wife or family can recognise them.
depending on the year she visited my nan and grandad were the last drittler' in west street,until my nan died in 1965

Jane

If you scan them and send me a copy via email I will put it on the forum if you want?

secretary@nmfhssouthport.co.uk

mary

thank you

will start them now.

Jane

West Street

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Jane

Unknown family

Jane

Another Unknown family

mary

thank you for putting those pictures on

SeaCopRimmer

The names I have are:

Back row : third from left John Nicholas Drittler
Centre row : Bertha Jarvis (nee Drittler), George Jarvis, ?, ?, Elizabeth Ann Drittler (nee Rimmer), ?, Elizabeth Cocker (nee Fletcher), Ann Drittler (nee Cockler), ?
Front row : ?, Herman Drittler, ?, John Drittler

I dare say that the young man on the left of the back row could possibly be George Drittler?

Does this help?

mary

thank you,yes i have those.that is all my direct family;uncle, grand parents,grt grandparents and grt aunts and uncles.
i have
back left; albert drittler,lilly drittler nee robinson,john nicholas drittler,george drittler,sally drittler nee ??,??,??. middle from left; bertha jarvis nee drittler,george jarvis,elsie wilson nee drittler,??,elizabeth ann drittler nee rimmer,??,elizabeth cocker nee fletcher,annie sarah drittler nee cocker,??, front fron left; ??,herman fletcher drittler(the youngest child),??,john leonard drittler.

and that accounts for all my drittler family,but i have in my dads family pictures those two other pictures of the lady to elizabeths left who must be family?? somehow? john nicholas drittler is from germany with no other family here but his children who are in the pic. so i can only think it must be a rimmer connection?
to the best i can work out the picture is taken around 1914/15
as john n drittler then goes to Knockaloe,isle of man and is released around 1918/19

SeaCopRimmer

My first father-in-law, John Nixon, was a plumber in Peel, Isle of Man and during WWII he had internees from Knockaloe Camp working for him; I thought that all internees had previously been sent to Douglas, didn't know Knockaloe had been 'built' in WWI

Jane

A site with all the hostiry of the camp on

Seems like it was used as a farm after the first war

http://www.iomguide.com/internment-camps/knockaloe.php

general history of the camps -
http://www.isle-of-man.com/manxnotebook/fulltext/gw1922/ch03.htm

SeaCopRimmer

Those are interesting sites - thanks, although I was concerned to note that they talk about 'prisoners-of-war' more than internees; most of the people incarcerated on the Isle of Man during the war were not military personnel.
I know that my in-laws had paintings which had been done by internees at Knockaloe Camp; they also had two circular pieces of work (about the size of a dinner plate) made of iron which internees had beaten and cut into scenes (hard to describe and I can't draw at all) which looked like silhouettes when placed on the wall, they were really nice.

mary

thank you jane those sites are very interesting.i know very little about the place.
i only know that is where my grt grandfather was sent and he became close to someone of wealth from london and when released he spent a little time in london with this person? "living it up" before returning to southport.no stories of bad treatment were passed down but then none of good was either only that he was there.
would love to have something made by him though seacoprimmer those pieces sound very interesting.
my dad had a cigarette case made in WW2 with a picture pressed/engraved into it of a map on the front and a naked lady inside. i was always fascinated by who could have made it and what happened to them etc

SeaCopRimmer

mary - if you ever get the chance to go to the Isle of Man go to the Manx History Museum (their are several sites across the Island, all telling different aspects of their history) and in the one which has Peel history they have a lot of information about the camps.

mary

thank you,i have that on my wish list now:-) i would love to go although i predict i will find it to be quite an emotional place.
unfortunately my husband is first in with a trip to Ireland.

Dotty · I say...

Something to look forward to Mary...

Dotty

PETER RIMMER 1821-1892 & MARY MURPHY 1835

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