Received today a marriage cert for the above.
He was 26 on his marriage in 1938 an Engineering Fitter at an aeroplane factory of Chapel Lane Banks. (Not very aufait with Banks Abrams)
Father was Geoffrey Abram, fisherman.
As far as I can see there are two likely Geoffrey/Jeffrey's. one born c1881 and the other 1870.
Found a marriage in 1898 of a Jeffrey to an Ellen Abram, but that would mean the 1881 was only 17 when married, so I think possibly it may have been the c1870 one.
Can anyone confirm or deny these two Geoffrey's/Jeffrey's with a son Richard.
Richard died before 1953 when his wife remarried.
Jane
Can't help but some suggestions
1 - Have you looked to see who the witnesses were? Might be a possible brother/sister
2 - There might be siblings older than Richard - you could look for one of their births which might help with a mother's maiden name
3 - Finally have a search for his death and you might be lucky and find a funeral/death notice. They often tell you family names which might help
Yvonne
The trouble is Jane I am working backwards.
Found his wife's second marriage when I was trawling through marriages purely by accident.
His wife's grave was with her grandparents in St Cuthbert's under her second marriage name and we couldn't work who she was, so worked backwards to Richard, but know nothing at all about him except now, that his father was Geoffrey
Witnesses were her brother Harold and an Alice Bond. If Alice is Richard's sister then ?? when she married as no idea of how old she was. Know for sure that Harold did not marry an Alice, as sometimes I have found siblings and their fiancee were witnesses at the others marriages.
Don't fancy trawling through all deaths and marriages c1930-1953 at the moment hoping for a short cut!
Jane
The second wife's funeral report just might be in the paper...............it might help
And working backwards is the way to do family hsitory
baxtersp
Hello Yvonne
I think Richard's parents might be Jeffrey and Ellen Abram (nee Abram), Jeffrey was a Fisherman. Here's their marriage -
From Certified Copy of an Entry of Marriage (sorry, I can't remember who sent me this one).
1898. Marriage solemnized at Primitive Methodist Chapel, Banks, North Meols in the district of Ormskirk in the County of Lancaster
No. 144
Twenty Eighth May 1898 Jeffrey Abram aged 28, Bachelor, Fisherman of Chapel Lane, Banks, son of Thomas Abram (deceased), Fisherman
& Ellen Abram aged 18, Spinster of Long Lane, Banks [no father recorded]
Married in the Primitive Methodist Chapel according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Prinitive Methodists by Certificate by me, William Overton PM Minister
James Platt, Registrar
This Marriage was solemnized between us, Jeffrey Abram, Ellen Abram
in the Presence of us, John Wareing, Betty Abram
I had a look at the births for Richard Abram's round about 1912 (on the Civil Registration Birth Index) and there was a Richard Abram's birth registered Jan-Feb-Mar 1912, Volume 8b, Page 1607, and the mother's maiden name is given as Abram.
So far Jeffrey is my 2cousin 3 times removed and Ellen my 1st cousin 3 times removed. I have a photo Jeffrey and Ellen's gravestone in Banks, but it wont let me attach it for some reason.
Yvonne
Thanks Steve.
This is the family in 1911
ABRAM JEFFREY M 1871 40 Ormskirk Lancashire
ABRAM ANN F 1899 12 Ormskirk Lancashire
ABRAM BETTY F 1902 9 Ormskirk Lancashire
ABRAM ELLEN F 1880 31 Ormskirk Lancashire
ABRAM JAMES M 1907 4 Ormskirk Lancashire
ABRAM JEFFERY M 1908 3 Ormskirk Lancashire
ABRAM MARY ELLEN F 1904 7 Ormskirk Lancashire
ABRAM ROBERT M 1910 1 Ormskirk Lancashire
ABRAM THOMAS M 1900 11 Ormskirk Lancashire
You may have a copy of Richard's wifes grave ie her grandparents grave in St Cuthbert's Steve. I cannot seem to put it on here
She was Lily Owen daughter of William and Ruth nee Howard.
Ruth was the daughter of Peter Howard and Margaret Ashman nee Tweed
baxtersp
Thanks for that, I haven't had a chance to look at the 1911 Census yet (a bit too expensive). Here's a transcription of Jeffrey & Ellen's gravestone, and that of Ellen's mother which also includes Jeffry & Ellen's daughter Ann.
From gravestones in St Stephens Churchyard, Church Road, Banks
In Loving Memory Of
Jeffrey,
beloved husband of Ellen Abram,
who died Oct. 10th 1947,
aged 77 years.
Also of the above Ellen Abram
who died Nov. 28th 1963,
aged 84 years.
At rest.
----------------------------------------------
In Loving Memory of
Ann, beloved wife of
Thomas Hall,
died July 15th 1923, aged 66 years.
Also Ann, dearly beloved daughter
of Jeffery & Ellen Abram,
died April 2nd 1953, aged 54 years.
Ellen was born about 10 years before Ann married, so I don't know who the father was. I do have Ann's marriage to Thomas Hall though -
From Certified Copy of an Entry of Marriage ordered by SPB
1898. Marriage solemnized at Primitive Methodist Assembly Hall, Derby Road, Southport in the district of Ormskirk in the County of Lancaster
No. 141
Twenty second May 1898 Thomas Hall aged 40 years, Widower, Railway Gate Keeper residing in Squarer House Lane Banks, son of Thomas Hall (deceased), Labourer on Railway
& Ann Abram aged 41 years, Spinster residing in Long Lane Banks, daughter of John Abram (deceased), Farm Labourer
Married in the Primitive Methodist Assembly Hall according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Primitive Methodists by Certificate by me, William Overton, P.M. Minister
James Platt, Registrar
This Marriage was solemnized between us, Thomas Hall, Ann Abram
in the Presence of us, John Ball, Mary Ann Ball
And this is the marriage of Jeffrey's parents, it looks like he was named after his grandfather -
From Certified Copy of an Entry of Marriage provided by Keith & Ida Wild
1867. Marriage solemnized at the Parish Church in the Parish of North Meols in the County of ---------
No. 294
December 14th [1867] Thomas Abram aged 23, Bachelor, Husbandman of Banks, son of Richard Abram, Farmer
& Elizabeth Wareing aged 25, Spinster of Banks, daughter of Geoffrey Wareing, Husbandman
Married in the Parish Church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church after Banns by me, John Bone Curate
This Marriage was solemnized between us, (x) The mark of Thomas Abram, (x) The mark of Elizabeth Wareing
in the Presence of us, Benjamin Abram [signs], (x) The mark of Alice Thomason
Thoas Abram was my first cousin 5 times removed and Elizabeth Wareing my first cousin 4 times removed (so far).
By the way, did you mean Ruth was the daughter of Peter Howard and Margaret Ashman Tweed? I have them having a daughter Ruth about 1885.
Yvonne
Sorry Steve, yes it was Peter Howard and Margaret. (have ammended)
The 1911 census I just looked up Jeffrey Abram 1870, found him and then put in Jeffrey Abram at the bottom bit on the advanced search and it brings up his family. It works if there is only one of the person with that name you are looking for, if you get my meaning. Doesn't cost anything. I am waiting until it comes a bit cheaper too.
For your info
Marriage solemnized at The Register Office, Southport. No 119
21 June 1938
Richard Abram, 26, Bachelor, Engineering Fitter (Aeroplane factory), Chapel Lane, Banks.
Father Geoffrey Abram, Fisherman
Lily Owen, 21, Spinster, Winder, (Knitting Factory), 114 Newton Street, Southport.
Father William Owen, Wheeltapper, Railway
Witnesses, Harold Owen, & Alice Bond
baxtersp
Here's what I've got on Richard Abram's ancestors so far. All the early stuff I stole from Joyce Otterstrom's tree, I can't guarantee she hasn't changed her tree since I copied it.
Ancestors of Richard Abram
First Generation
1. Richard Abram, son of Jeffrey Abram and Ellen Abram, was born about 1912.
Richard married Lily Owen, daughter of William Owen and Ruth Howard, on 21
Jun 1938 in Register Office, Southport, Lancashire, England.
Marriage Notes: From Post by Yvonne on the NMFHS website
Marriage solemnized at The Register Office, Southport. No 119
21 June 1938
Richard Abram, 26, Bachelor, Engineering Fitter (Aeroplane factory), Chapel Lane, Banks.
Father Geoffrey Abram, Fisherman
Lily Owen, 21, Spinster, Winder, (Knitting Factory), 114 Newton Street,
Southport.
Father William Owen, Wheeltapper, Railway
Witnesses, Harold Owen, & Alice Bond
Second Generation (Parents)
2. Jeffrey Abram, son of Thomas Abram and Elizabeth Wareing, was born in
1870 in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England, died on 10 Oct 1947
aged 77, and was buried in Church of St Stephen-in-the-Banks, Church
Road, Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England.
General Notes: From North Meols Census 31st March 1901, District 2, Page 14,
Schedule 84
Long Lane, Banks
Jeffrey Abram Head M 30 Fisherman born North Meols
Ellen Abram Wife M 21
Ann Abram Dau S 2
Thomas Abram Son S 1
From gravestone in St Stephens Churchyard, Church Road, Banks
In Loving Memory Of
Jeffrey,
beloved husband of Ellen Abram,
who died Oct. 10th 1947,
aged 77 years.
Also of the above Ellen Abram
who died Nov. 28th 1963,
aged 84 years.
At rest.
* He worked as a Fisherman on 5 Apr 1891 in Chapel Lane, Banks, North
Meols, Lancashire, England.
* He worked as a Fisherman on 31 Mar 1901 in Long Lane, Banks, North
Meols, Lancashire, England.
Jeffrey married Ellen Abram on 28 May 1898 in Primitive Methodist Chapel,
Chapel Lane, Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Ellen was born in
1879 in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England, died on 28 Nov 1963 aged
84, and was buried in Church of St Stephen-in-the-Banks, Church Road,
Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England.
Marriage Notes: From Certified Copy of an Entry of Marriage (sorry, I can't
remember who sent me this one).
1898. Marriage solemnized at Primitive Methodist Chapel, Banks, North Meols
in the district of Ormskirk in the County of Lancaster
No. 144
Twenty Eighth May 1898 Jeffrey Abram aged 28, Bachelor, Fisherman of
Chapel Lane, Banks, son of Thomas Abram (deceased), Fisherman
& Ellen Abram aged 18, Spinster of
Long Lane, Banks [no father recorded]
Married in the Primitive Methodist Chapel according to the Rites and
Ceremonies of the Prinitive Methodists by Certificate by me, William Overton
PM Minister
James Platt, Registrar
This Marriage was solemnized between us, Jeffrey Abram, Ellen Abram
in the Presence of us, John Wareing, Betty Abram
Children from this marriage were:
i. Ann Abram was born about 1898 in North Meols, Lancashire, England, died on 2 Apr 1953 aged about 55, and was buried in Church of St Stephen-in-the-Banks, Church Road, Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England.
ii. Thomas Abram was born about 1900 in North Meols, Lancashire, England.
iii. Betty Abram was born about 1902.
iv. Mary Ellen Abram was born about 1904.
v. James Abram was born about 1907.
vi. Jeffery Abram was born about 1908.
vii. Robert Abram was born about 1910.
viii. Richard Abram (born about 1912). Richard married Lily Owen on 21 Jun 1938 in Register Office, Southport, Lancashire, England.
3. Ellen Abram, daughter of Unknown and Ann Abram, was born in 1879 in
Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England, died on 28 Nov 1963 aged 84,
and was buried in Church of St Stephen-in-the-Banks, Church Road,
Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England.
General Notes: Buried with husband Jeffrey Abram in St Stephens Churchyard,
Church Road, Banks. Grave transcription entered in Jeffrey's record.
Ellen married Jeffrey Abram on 28 May 1898 in Primitive Methodist Chapel,
Chapel Lane, Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Jeffrey was born in
1870 in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England, died on 10 Oct 1947 aged
77, and was buried in Church of St Stephen-in-the-Banks, Church Road,
Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England.
Third Generation (Grandparents)
4. Thomas Abram, son of Richard Abram and Alice Leadbetter, was born about
1845 in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England and died before 1881.
General Notes: From North Meols Census 2nd April 1871, District 1, Page 25,
Schedule 49
New Lane, Banks
Thomas Abram Head Mar 27 Agricultural Labourer born North Meols
Betty Abram Wife Mar 26
Richard Abram Son 3
Jeffrey Abram Son 1
Thomas dies before the 1881 Census.
* He worked as an Agricultural Labourer on 2 Apr 1871 in New Lane, Banks,
North Meols, Lancashire, England.
Thomas married Elizabeth Wareing on 14 Dec 1867 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown,
North Meols, Lancashire, England. Elizabeth was born about 1843 in Banks,
North Meols, Lancashire, England. Another name for Elizabeth was Betty.
Marriage Notes: From Certified Copy of an Entry of Marriage provided by Keith
& Ida Wild
1867. Marriage solemnized at the Parish Church in the Parish of North Meols
in the County of ---------
No. 294
December 14th [1867] Thomas Abram aged 23, Bachelor, Husbandman of
Banks, son of Richard Abram, Farmer
& Elizabeth Wareing aged 25,
Spinster of Banks, daughter of Geoffrey Wareing, Husbandman
Married in the Parish Church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the
Established Church after Banns by me, John Bone Curate
This Marriage was solemnized between us, (x) The mark of Thomas Abram, (x)
The mark of Elizabeth Wareing
in the Presence of us, Benjamin Abram [signs], (x) The mark of Alice
Thomason
Children from this marriage were:
i. Richard Abram was born about 1868 in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England, died on 23 Apr 1912 aged about 44, and was buried in Church of St Stephen-in-the-Banks, Church Road, Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Richard married Rachael Bridge March Quarter 1893 in Ormskirk Registration District, Lancashire. Rachael was born in Feb 1871 in North Meols, Lancashire, England, died on 18 Oct 1951 aged 80, and was buried in Church of St Stephen-in-the-Banks, Church Road, Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Another name for Rachael was Rachel.
ii. Jeffrey Abram (born in 1870 in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England - died on 10 Oct 1947, buried in Church of St Stephen-in-the-Banks, Church Road, Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England). Jeffrey married Ellen Abram on 28 May 1898 in Primitive Methodist Chapel, Chapel Lane, Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Ellen was born in 1879 in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England, died on 28 Nov 1963 aged 84, and was buried in Church of St Stephen-in-the-Banks, Church Road, Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England.
iii. Mary Abram was born about 1872 in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England.
iv. Alice Abram was born about 1874 in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England.
v. Margaret Ann Abram was born about 1876 in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Margaret married William Bond December Quarter 1897 in Ormskirk Registration District, Lancashire. William was born about 1875 in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England.
vi. Levi Abram was born in 1880 in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Levi married Ellen Williams. Ellen was born about 1880 in Llanfairfechan, Caernarvonshire, North Wales.
5. Elizabeth Wareing, daughter of Jeoffrey Wareing and Ellin Howard, was
born about 1843 in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Another
name for Elizabeth was Betty.
General Notes: From North Meols Census 3rd April 1881, District 1, Page 17,
Schedule 78
New Lane, Banks
Betty Abram Head Wid 38 Cockle Gatherer born Banks
Richard Abram Son 13 Cockle Gatherer
Jeffrey Abram Son 11 Scholar
Mary Abram Dau 9 Scholar
Alice Abram Dau 7 Scholar
Margaret A Abram Dau 5 Scholar
Levi Abram Son 9 months
From North Meols Census 5th April 1891, District 1, Page 5, Schedule 22
Chapel Lane, Banks
Betty Abram Head Wid 49 born Banks
Richard Abram Son S 23 Fisherman
Jeffrey Abram Son S 21 Fisherman
Mary Abram Dau S 19 Laundress
Alice Abram Dau S 17
Margaret A Abram Dau S 15 Laundress
Levi Abram Son S 10 Scholar
With son Levi Abram on the 1901 Census.
* She worked as a Cotton Weaver on 7 Apr 1861 in Brick Kiln Lane, Banks,
North Meols, Lancashire.
* She worked as a Cockle Gatherer on 3 Apr 1881 in New Lane, Banks, North
Meols, Lancashire, England.
Elizabeth married Thomas Abram on 14 Dec 1867 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown,
North Meols, Lancashire, England. Thomas was born about 1845 in Banks,
North Meols, Lancashire, England and died before 1881.
7. Ann Abram, daughter of John Abram and Ann Johnson, was born about 1857 in
Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England, died on 15 Jul 1923 aged
about 66, and was buried in Church of St Stephen-in-the-Banks, Church
Road, Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England.
General Notes: From gravestone at St Stephen's, Church Road, Banks (DSC01945)
In Loving Memory of
Ann, beloved wife of
Thomas Hall,
died July 15th 1923, aged 66 years.
Also Ann, dearly beloved daughter
of Jeffery & Ellen Abram,
died April 2nd 1953, aged 54 years.
* She worked as a Cockle Gatherer on 2 Apr 1871 in New Lane, Banks, North
Meols, Lancashire, England.
* She worked as a Dairy Maid on 3 Apr 1881 in Long Lane, Banks, North
Meols, Lancashire, England.
* She worked as a Fisherwoman on 5 Apr 1891 in Long Lane, Banks, North
Meols, Lancashire, England.
Ann married someone.
Her child was:
i. Ellen Abram (born in 1879 in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England - died on 28 Nov 1963, buried in Church of St Stephen-in-the-Banks, Church Road, Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England). Ellen married Jeffrey Abram on 28 May 1898 in Primitive Methodist Chapel, Chapel Lane, Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Jeffrey was born in 1870 in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England, died on 10 Oct 1947 aged 77, and was buried in Church of St Stephen-in-the-Banks, Church Road, Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England.
Ann next married Thomas Hall, son of Thomas Hall and Alice Tasker, on 22 May
1898 in Primitive Methodist Assembly Hall, Derby Road, Southport,
Lancashire, England. Thomas was born about 1857 in Banks, North Meols,
Lancashire, England, died on 20 Nov 1940 aged about 83, and was buried in
Church of St Stephen-in-the-Banks, Church Road, Banks, North Meols,
Lancashire, England.
Marriage Notes: From Certified Copy of an Entry of Marriage ordered by SPB
1898. Marriage solemnized at Primitive Methodist Assembly Hall, Derby Road,
Southport in the district of Ormskirk in the County of Lancaster
No. 141
Twenty second May 1898 Thomas Hall aged 40 years, Widower, Railway
Gate Keeper residing in Squarer House Lane Banks, son of Thomas Hall
(deceased), Labourer on Railway
& Ann Abram aged 41 years, Spinster residing in Long Lane Banks, daughter of John Abram (deceased),
Farm Labourer
Married in the Primitive Methodist Assembly Hall according to the Rites and
Ceremonies of the Primitive Methodists by Certificate by me, William
Overton, P.M. Minister
James Platt, Registrar
This Marriage was solemnized between us, Thomas Hall, Ann Abram
in the Presence of us, John Ball, Mary Ann Ball
Fourth Generation (Great-Grandparents)
8. Richard Abram, son of John Abram and Ellin Wignall, was born in Banks,
North Meols, Lancashire, England, was christened on 31 Dec 1797 in St
Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England, died in Banks,
North Meols, Lancashire, England, and was buried on 5 Dec 1863 in St
Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England.
General Notes: chr 1797 December 31 Richard s. of John & Ellin Abram of Banks
Burial: 5 Dec 1863 St Cuthbert, North Meols, Lancashire, England
Richard Abram -
Age: 66 years
Abode: Banks
Buried by: N.S.Jeffrey Curate
Register: Burials 1846 - 1867, Page 166, Entry 1326
Source: LDS Film 1796146
From North Meols Census 7th June 1841, District 11, Page 13, Schedule 53
Banks
Richard Abram male 40 Fisherman [all] born in Lancashire
Alice Abram female 35
Ellen Abram female 15
Mary Abram female 13
Jane Abram female 11
John Abram male 7
Alice Abram female 5
Betty Abram female 4
Margaret Abram female 2
From North Meols Census 30th March 1851, District 1j, Page 8, Schedule 23
New Lane, Banks
Richard Abram Head Mar 54 Fisherman born North Meols
Alice Abram Wife Mar 49 Fisherman's Wife
Mary Abram Dau Unm 23 Fisherman's Daughter
John Abram Son Unm 17 Agricultural Labourer
Margaret Abram Dau Unm 10 Scholar
Elizabeth Abram Dau Unm 8 Scholar
Thomas Abram Son Unm 6 At home
Alice Abram G/Dau 6 months
NB "Elizabeth" appears as Isabell on the next Census. Also in 1851 Thomas is
listed as a grandson.
From North Meols Census 7th April 1861, District 1, Page 11, Schedule 35
Moss Side, Banks
Richard Abram Head Mar 63 Farmer of 12 acres born Banks
Alice Abram Wife Mar 59 Farmer's Wife
Margaret Abram Dau Unm 20 Farmer's Daughter
Isabell Abram Dau Unm 18 Laundress
Thomas Abram G/Son Unm 16 Carter
Richard Abram G/Son 14 Carter
Richard Abram G/Son 4 At home
Sarah Abram G/Dau 4
Ann Eccles G/Dau 10 Scholar
NB Richard Abram aged 4 is almost certainly from son John, and turns up with
his parents in Fleetwood on the next Census.
* He worked as a Fisherman on 7 Jun 1841 in Banks, North Meols,
Lancashire, England.
* He worked as a Fisherman on 30 Mar 1851 in New Lane, Banks, North
Meols, Lancashire, England.
* He worked as a Farmer of 12 acres on 7 Apr 1861 in Moss Side, Banks,
North Meols, Lancashire, England.
Richard married Alice Leadbetter on 5 Dec 1822 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown,
North Meols, Lancashire, England. Alice was born in Banks, North Meols,
Lancashire, England and was christened on 11 Apr 1802 in St Cuthbert,
Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Ellen Abram was born in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England, was christened on 11 May 1823 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England, and died in 1899 aged 76. Ellen married Edward Eccles on 7 Jul 1850 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Edward was born about 1821 in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England and died in 1895 aged about 74.
ii. Nanny Abram was born in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England, was christened on 16 Oct 1825 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England, died in 19 West Street, Warrington, Lancashire, England, and was buried on 14 Mar 1912 in Church of St Stephen-in-the-Banks, Church Road, Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Other names for Nanny were Ann and Nanny. Nanny married Joseph Abram on 12 Aug 1845 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Joseph was born about 1824 in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England, was christened on 16 Mar 1834 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England, died in Crossens, North Meols, Lancashire, England, and was buried on 18 Feb 1853 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Nanny next married Lawrence Wareing on 9 Dec 1856 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Lawrence was born in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England, was christened on 8 Aug 1830 in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England, and died in 1898 aged 68. Another name for Lawrence was Laurence.
iii. Mary Abram was born in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England and was christened on 20 Jan 1828 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Mary married John Aughton on 4 Nov 1852 in St John, Rufford Road, Crossens, North Meols, Lancashire, England. John was born on 24 Jun 1830 in Crossens, North Meols, Lancashire, England and was christened on 11 Jul 1830 in Churchtown Congregational Church, North Meols, Lancashire, England.
iv. Jane Abram was born in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England and was christened on 31 Jan 1830 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Jane married Jeffery Aughton on 23 Aug 1848 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Jeffery was born in Crossens, North Meols, Lancashire, England, was christened on 14 Sep 1828 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England, and was buried in 1872. Other names for Jeffery were Jeffrey, Jeffry, and Jeoffrey. Jane next married John Cave September Quarter 1876 in Ormskirk Registration District, Lancashire. John was born about 1839 in Ireland. Another name for John was John Keefe.
v. Thomas Abram was born in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England, was christened on 10 Jun 1832 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England, and died before 1845.
vi. John Abram was born in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England and was christened on 6 Jul 1834 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. John married Ellen Bond on 20 Aug 1856 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Ellen was born about 1839 in North Meols, Lancashire, England.
vii. Alice Abram was christened on 24 Jan 1836 in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England.
viii. Betty Abram was born about 1837 in North Meols, Lancashire, England. Another name for Betty was Elizabeth Abraham.
ix. Margaret Abram was born about 1839 in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Margaret married someone. Margaret married John Sharples on 13 Aug 1870 in Church of St Stephen-in-the-Banks, Church Road, Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England. John was born in Hesketh Bank, Lancashire, England, was christened on 31 Dec 1843 in All Saints, Becconsall Lane, Hesketh with Becconsall, Lancashire, England, and died before 1891.
x. Isabella Abram was born in 1842 in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England and died in 1900 aged 58. Another name for Isabella was Elizabeth. Isabella married Richard Abram on 30 Jul 1864 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Richard was born about 1845 in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England.
xi. Thomas Abram (born about 1845 in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England - died before 1881). Thomas married Elizabeth Wareing on 14 Dec 1867 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Elizabeth was born about 1843 in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Another name for Elizabeth was Betty.
9. Alice Leadbetter, daughter of Thomas Leadbetter and Anne Peet, was born
in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England and was christened on 11
Apr 1802 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England.
General Notes: From North Meols Parish Register 1732-1812, Christenings
11 Apr 1802 Alice d. of Thos & Ann Leadbeater, Banks
Alice married Richard Abram on 5 Dec 1822 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North
Meols, Lancashire, England. Richard was born in Banks, North Meols,
Lancashire, England, was christened on 31 Dec 1797 in St Cuthbert,
Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England, died in Banks, North Meols,
Lancashire, England, and was buried on 5 Dec 1863 in St Cuthbert,
Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England.
10. Jeoffrey Wareing, son of John Wareing and Ellen Wright, was born in
North Meols, Lancashire, England, was christened on 26 Feb 1804 in St
Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England, and died
before 21 Jun 1848. Other names for Jeoffrey were Geofrey and Jeffrey.
General Notes: chr 1804 February 26 Robert & Jeoffrey, sons, of John & Ellen
Wareing
From North Meols Census 7th June 1841, District 10, Pages 11 & 12, Schedule 48
Banks
Jeffrey Wareing male 30 Brick Labourer born in Lancashire
Ellen Wareing female 30
Robert Wareing male 7
Charlotte Wareing female 5
Ellen Wareing female 5
John Wareing male 5 months
NB All those over 15 had their ages rounded down to the nearest five years on
the 1841 Census. Ellen junior is 13 on the next Census, so perhaps she should
be 3 (and not 5) in 1841. Jeffrey dies before the next Census and the other
returns for this family are under Ellen as head of the household. Another
daughter of Jeffrey and Ellen's, Ann Howard aged 11 (born before the couple
married), is with Ellen's parents in 1841. Son Robert also seems to have been
baptised a Howard.
* He worked as a Brick Labourer on 7 Jun 1841 in Banks, North Meols,
Lancashire, England.
Jeoffrey married Ellin Howard. Ellin was born in Tarleton, Lancashire,
England and was christened on 17 May 1807 in St Mary, Tarleton,
Lancashire, England. Another name for Ellin was Ellen.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Ann Howard was born in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England and was christened on 25 Jul 1830 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Ann married Peter Wareing on 6 Dec 1849 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Peter was born in Crossens, North Meols, Lancashire, England and was christened on 23 Nov 1828 in North Meols, Lancashire, England.
ii. Robert Howard was born in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England, was christened on 25 Aug 1833 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England, died on 23 Jun 1916 aged 82, and was buried in Church of St Stephen-in-the-Banks, Church Road, Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Another name for Robert was Robert Wareing. Robert married Ann Abram on 14 Dec 1854 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Ann was born in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England, was christened on 12 Jul 1829 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England, and died before 1860. Robert next married Miriam Abram on 24 Jul 1860 in St James, Birkdale, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Miriam was born in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England, was christened on 12 Jul 1835 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England, died on 5 Dec 1911 aged 76, and was buried in Church of St Stephen-in-the-Banks, Church Road, Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Another name for Miriam was Marium.
iii. Charlotte Wareing was born about 1835 in North Meols, Lancashire, England.
iv. Eleanor Waring was born in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England and was christened on 17 Sep 1837 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Another name for Eleanor was Ellen Wareing. Eleanor married Thomas Tomlinson December Quarter 1859 in Ormskirk Registration District, Lancashire. Thomas was born in Crossens, North Meols, Lancashire, England and was christened on 8 Dec 1833 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England.
v. John Wareing was born about 1841 in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England.
vi. Elizabeth Wareing (born about 1843 in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England). Elizabeth married Thomas Abram on 14 Dec 1867 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Thomas was born about 1845 in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England and died before 1881.
vii. Mary Wareing was born about 1845 in North Meols, Lancashire, England, died in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England, and was buried on 16 Aug 1851 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England.
viii. Jenny Wareing was born on 21 Jun 1848 in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England, died on 30 Apr 1925 aged 76, and was buried in St John, Rufford Road, Crossens, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Other names for Jenny were Jane and Jennie. Jenny married Thomas Wareing (1) December Quarter 1867 in Ormskirk Registration District, Lancashire. Thomas was born about 1843 in Crossens, North Meols, Lancashire, England, died on 22 Mar 1919 aged about 76, and was buried in St John, Rufford Road, Crossens, North Meols, Lancashire, England.
11. Ellin Howard, daughter of Robert Howard and Jenny Abram, was born in
Tarleton, Lancashire, England and was christened on 17 May 1807 in St
Mary, Tarleton, Lancashire, England. Another name for Ellin was Ellen.
General Notes: Research of Keith & Ida Wild
From Tarleton Parish Registers trranscribed by Lesley Marriott, Christenings
17 May 1807 Ellin daughter to Robert Howhard and Jenny his wife
From North Meols Census 30th March 1851, District 1i, Pages 6 & 7, Schedule 24
Hool[e] Lane, Banks
Ellen Wareing Head Widow 46 born North Meols
Robert Wareing Son Unm 17 Agricultural Labourer
Ellen Wareing Dau 13
John Wareing Son 10
Elizabeth Wareing Dau 7
Mary Wareing Dau 5
Jenny Wareing Dau 2
From North Meols Census 7th April 1861, District 2, Page 8, Schedule 45
Brick Kiln Lane, Banks
Ellen Wareing Head Widow 55 born North Meols
John Wareing Son Unm 20 Agricultural Labourer
Betty Wareing Dau Unm 18 Cotton Weaver
Jenny Wareing Dau Unm 13 Cockle Gatherer
From North Meols Census 2nd April 1871, District 2, Page 23, Schedule 116
Hoole Lane, Banks
Ellen Wareing Head Widow 65 born North Meols
John Wareing Son Unm 31 Agricultural Labourer
From North Meols Census 3rd April 1881, District 2, Page 18, Schedule 96
Gravel Lane, Banks
Ellen Wareing Head Wid 77 Labourer's Widow born Tarleton
John Wareing Son Unm 42 General Labourer Banks
Richard Tomlinson G/Son 11 Scholar Longton
NB This is the only occasion Ellen gives anything else apart from North Meols
as her birthplace. Richard Tomlinson is the son of Ellen junior and Thomas
Tomlinson.
* Address -: Head of household, 30 Mar 1851, Hoole Lane, Banks, North
Meols, Lancashire, England.
* She worked as a Head of household on 7 Apr 1861 in Brick Kiln Lane,
Banks, North Meols, Lancashire.
* She worked as a Head of household on 2 Apr 1871 in Hoole Lane, Banks,
North Meols, Lancashire, England.
Ellin married Jeoffrey Wareing. Jeoffrey was born in North Meols, Lancashire,
England, was christened on 26 Feb 1804 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North
Meols, Lancashire, England, and died before 21 Jun 1848. Other names for
Jeoffrey were Geofrey and Jeffrey.
14. John Abram, son of Laurence Abram and Ellen Wright, was born in Banks,
North Meols, Lancashire, England, was christened on 19 Apr 1807 in St
Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England, and died
before 1881.
General Notes: From North Meols Parish Register 1732 - 1812, Christenings
19 April 1807 John s. of Lauce & Ellen Abram, Banks
From North Meols Census 7th April 1861, District 1, Page 10, Schedule 33
Moss Side, Banks
John Abram Head Mar 54 Agricultural Labourer born Banks
Ann Abram Wife Mar 47 Ag Lab's Wife
Benjamin Abram Son Unm 26 Blacksmith, Master
Lawrence Abram Son 10 Scholar
Edward Abram Son 7 Scholar
Ann Abram Dau 4 At home
Ellen Abram Dau 1
NB I believe that Benjamin Abram is Benjamin Johnson, son of Ann Johnson.
There is no sign of a Benjamin Abram of this age either in the Abram extracts
or the 1851 Census, so Benjamin (aka Barnaby) must have taken the surname when
Ann married John Abram, presumably shortly after the 1851 Census. Benjamin
uses the surname Johnson in all other census forms, including the 1851.
Whether John Abram is actually Benjamin's father is unclear at this point.
From North Meols Census 2nd April 1871, District 1, Page 10, Schedule no. 45
New Lane, Banks
John Abram Head Mar 64 Farm Labourer born North Meols
Ann Abram Wife Mar 56 Labourer's Wife
Lawrence Abram Son Unm 19 Labourer's Son
Edward Abram Son Unm 17 Fisherman
Ann Abram Dau 14 Cockle Gatherer
Ellen Abram Dau 12 Scholar
* He worked as an Agricultural Labourer on 7 Jun 1841 in Banks, North
Meols, Lancashire, England.
* He worked as an Agricultural Labourer on 7 Apr 1861 in Moss Side,
Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England.
* He worked as a Farm Labourer on 2 Apr 1871 in New Lane, Banks, North
Meols, Lancashire, England.
John married Ann Johnson on 19 Jul 1851 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North
Meols, Lancashire, England. Ann was born in Banks, North Meols,
Lancashire, England, was christened on 30 Jul 1815 in St Cuthbert,
Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England, and died before 1901.
Marriage Notes: From copy of Marriage Certificate
1851 Marriage solemnized at the Parish Church in the Parish of North Meols
in the County of Lancaster
No. 320 John Abram bachelor of full age, labourer of Banks son of Laurence
Abram, labourer & Ann Johnson spinster of full age of Banks daughter of
Edward Johnson, labourer.
Married in the Parish Church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the
Established Church after Banns by me, B Swift Curate (signs. The Marriage
was solemnized between us John (x) Abram & Ann (x) Johnson in the Presence of
us, Robert (x) Johnson , Isabella (x) Johnson.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Lawrence Abram was born about 1851 in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England.
ii. Edward Abram was born on 27 Jan 1855 in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England and died in May 1926 aged 71. Edward married Elizabeth Wareing on 9 Oct 1875 in North Meols, Lancashire, England. Elizabeth was born about 1853 in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England and died on 23 Mar 1896 aged about 43. Another name for Elizabeth was Betty Wareing.
iii. Ann Abram (born about 1857 in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England - died on 15 Jul 1923, buried in Church of St Stephen-in-the-Banks, Church Road, Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England). Ann married someone. Ann married Thomas Hall on 22 May 1898 in Primitive Methodist Assembly Hall, Derby Road, Southport, Lancashire, England. Thomas was born about 1857 in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England, died on 20 Nov 1940 aged about 83, and was buried in Church of St Stephen-in-the-Banks, Church Road, Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England.
iv. Ellen Abram was born about 1859 in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Ellen married Richard Ryding on 21 Sep 1878 in Primitive Methodist Chapel, London Street, Southport, Lancashire, England. Richard was born about 1857 in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England.
15. Ann Johnson, daughter of Edward Johnson and Margaret Brookfield, was
born in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England, was christened on 30
Jul 1815 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England,
and died before 1901.
General Notes: From NMFHS Johnson one name extracts 1594 - 1837, Baptisms
Jul 30 1815 Ann d Edward & Margaret Johnson of Banks, Weaver
From North Meols Census 3rd April 1881, District 2, Page 14, Schedule 79
Long Lane, Banks, North Meols
Ann Abram Head Wid 65 Farm Servants Widow born Banks
Ann Abram Dau Unm 24 Dairy Maid
Ellen Abram G/Dau 1
From North Meols Census 5th April 1891, District 2, Page 1, Schedule 6
Long Lane, Banks, North Meols
Ann Abram Head Wid 75 born Banks
Ellen Abram G/Dau S 11 Scholar
Ann Abram Dau S 34 Fisherwoman
Ann had a relationship with someone. Marriage status: unmarried.
Her children were:
i. Barnaby Johnson was born in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England,(2) was christened on 27 Mar 1836 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England, and died in 1894 in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England aged 58. Other names for Barnaby were Benjamin Abram and Benjamin Johnson. Barnaby married Betty Howard on 11 May 1864 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Betty was born about 1838 in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England.(2) Another name for Betty was Elizabeth.
ii. John Johnson was born on 3 Sep 1840 in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England and was christened on 29 Dec 1840 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. John married Mary Hosker on 1 Nov 1862 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Mary was born about 1840 in Longton, Lancashire, England.
Ann next married John Abram on 19 Jul 1851 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North
Meols, Lancashire, England. John was born in Banks, North Meols,
Lancashire, England, was christened on 19 Apr 1807 in St Cuthbert,
Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England, and died before 1881.
1. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, International Genealogical
Index (R) (Copyright (c) 1980, 2002, data as of December 27, 2004).
2. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1881 British Census
(Copyright (c) 1999, 2002 FamilySearch,(TM) Internet Genealogy Service,
January 19, 2005) FHL Film 1341896 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 3747 Folio
22 Page 4.
Fifth Generation (Great Great-Grandparents)
16. John Abram, son of Lawrance Abraham and Jennet Boond, was born in Banks,
North Meols, Lancashire, England, was christened on 8 Apr 1758 in St
Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England, died in Banks,
North Meols, Lancashire, England, and was buried on 17 Feb 1851 in St
Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England.
General Notes: chr 1758 April 8 John s. of Laurence & Jennet Abram of Banks
marriage 1788 December 8 John Abram & Ellin Wignall
Burial: 17 Feb 1851 St Cuthbert, North Meols, Lancashire, England
John Abram -
Age: 92 yrs
Abode: The Banks
Buried by: Benjm.Swift Curate
Register: Burials 1846 - 1867, Page 46, Entry 364
Source: LDS Film 1796146
From North Meols Census 6th June 1841, District 11, Pages 17 & 18, Schedule 69
Banks
John Abram male 84 Fisherman [all] born in Lancashire
Ellen Abram female 75
Mary Abram female 40
Betty Abram female 40
Lawrence Abram male 20
Lawrence Abram male 14
Ann Abram female 11
Ellen Abram female 11
John Abram male 10
Nathan Abram male 4
NB All those over 15 were supposed to have their ages rounded down to the
nearest 5 or 10 years on the 1841 Census, although John is clearly 84. Mary &
Betty are John & Ellen's daughters - Lawrence Abram (aged 20) is Mary's son,
and Lawrence (aged 14) is Betty's son. Ann Abram seems to be from Betty as
well, and John Abram (aged 10) is Mary's son - I'm not sure about Ellen (aged
11). John Abram, son of John Abram (Fisherman) & Ellen is at schedule 70.
* He worked as a Fisherman on 6 Jun 1841 in Banks, North Meols,
Lancashire, England.
John married Ellin Wignall on 8 Dec 1788 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North
Meols, Lancashire, England. Ellin was born in Banks, North Meols,
Lancashire, England, was christened on 23 Mar 1766 in St Cuthbert,
Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England, died in Banks, North Meols,
Lancashire, England, and was buried on 21 Apr 1853 in St Cuthbert,
Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Another name for Ellin was
Ellen.
Marriage Notes: From North Meols Parish Register 1732 - 1812, Second Separate
Marriage Register p. 59
08 Dec 1788 John Abram & Ellin Wignall
Children from this marriage were:
i. William Abram was born in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England, was christened on 20 Jul 1786 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England, died in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England, and was buried on 25 Aug 1853 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Another name for William was William Wignall. William married Ann Wright on 17 Apr 1811 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Ann was born in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England, was christened on 14 May 1791 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England, and died before 1841.
ii. Laurence Abram was born in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England and was christened on 9 Dec 1788 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Laurence married Elizabeth Wright on 20 Feb 1810 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Elizabeth was born in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England and was christened on 7 Jan 1787 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England.
iii. Thomas Abram was born on 13 Jul 1792 in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England, was christened on 3 Jan 1796 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England, and died before 1881. Thomas married Alice Abram on 22 Nov 1831 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Alice was born in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England, was christened on 11 Oct 1802 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England, and died before 1891.
iv. Mary Abram was born on 10 Aug 1793 in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England and was christened on 3 Jan 1796 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Mary had a relationship with Robert Howard. This couple did not marry. Robert was christened in North Meols, Lancashire, England. Mary married Unknown.
v. Richard Abram (christened on 31 Dec 1797, born in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England - buried on 5 Dec 1863, died in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England). Richard married Alice Leadbetter on 5 Dec 1822 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Alice was born in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England and was christened on 11 Apr 1802 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England.
vi. Betty Abram was born in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England and was christened on 1 Sep 1799 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Betty married someone.
vii. John Abram was born in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England, was christened on 23 May 1802 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England, died in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England, and was buried on 1 Mar 1805 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England.
viii. Ellen Abram was born in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England and was christened on 29 Apr 1804 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Ellen married Thomas Peet on 7 Aug 1826 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Thomas was born in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England, was christened on 21 May 1797 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England, died in Fleetwood, Fylde, Lancashire, England, and was buried on 3 Jun 1864 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Other names for Thomas were Thomas Ryding and Thomas Ryding Peet.
ix. John Abram was born in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England and was christened on 14 Sep 1806 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. John married Mary Wright on 19 Oct 1830 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Mary was born in Marsh Side, North Meols, Lancashire, England and was christened on 21 Aug 1808 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England.
x. James Abram was born in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England and was christened on 24 Dec 1809 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. James married Ellen Rimmer on 30 Mar 1835 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Ellen was born about 1808 in North Meols, Lancashire, England and died before 1881. James next married Alice Abraham. Alice was born in North Meols, Lancashire, England and was christened on 10 Sep 1809 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Another name for Alice was Alice Abram.
xi. Abram. Abram had a relationship with Richard Abram. This couple did not marry.
17. Ellin Wignall, daughter of William Wignall and Mary Abram, was born in
Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England, was christened on 23 Mar 1766
in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England, died in
Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England, and was buried on 21 Apr 1853
in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Another
name for Ellin was Ellen.
General Notes: chr 1766 Mar 23 Ellen d. of William & Mary Wignall of Banks
Burial: 21 Apr 1853 St Cuthbert, North Meols, Lancashire, England
Ellen Abram -
Age: 88 yrs
Abode: Banks
Buried by: B.Swift Curate
Register: Burials 1846 - 1867, Page 72, Entry 570
Source: LDS Film 1796146
NB Calculated age at death 87 years.
* She worked as a Farmer of 2 acres on 30 Mar 1851 in Banks Lane, Banks,
North Meols, Lancashire, England. Occupation given on the 1851 Census.
Ellin married John Abram on 8 Dec 1788 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North
Meols, Lancashire, England. John was born in Banks, North Meols,
Lancashire, England, was christened on 8 Apr 1758 in St Cuthbert,
Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England, died in Banks, North Meols,
Lancashire, England, and was buried on 17 Feb 1851 in St Cuthbert,
Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England.
18. Thomas Leadbetter, son of John Leadbetter and Mary Wright, was born in
Crossens, North Meols, Lancashire, England, was christened on 21 Nov
1762 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England,
died in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England, and was buried on 15
Feb 1831 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England.
Another name for Thomas was Thomas Leadbeater.
General Notes: From North Meols Parish Register 1732-1812, Christenings
21 Nov 1762 Thomas s. of John & Mary Leadbetter of Crossens
marriage 1784 Sep 21 Thomas Leadbeater & Ann Peet
burial 1831 Feb 15 Thomas Ledbetter, Banks, age 68
Thomas married Anne Peet (1) on 21 Sep 1784 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North
Meols, Lancashire, England. Anne was born in Banks, North Meols,
Lancashire, England, was christened on 8 Dec 1765 in St Cuthbert,
Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England, died in Banks, North Meols,
Lancashire, England, and was buried on 15 Oct 1855 in St Cuthbert,
Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Another name for Anne was
Nanny.
Children from this marriage were:
i. John Leadbetter was born in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England, was christened on 21 Nov 1784 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England, and died before 1871. John married Cicely Howard (2) on 17 Jan 1808 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Cicely was born in Crossens, North Meols, Lancashire, England, was christened on 27 Feb 1789 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England, and died in 1871 in Ormskirk Registration District, Lancashire aged 82. Another name for Cicely was Ciciley.
ii. Jane Leadbetter was born in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England and was christened on 10 Sep 1786 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Jane married Hugh Backstar on 1 Nov 1803 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Hugh was born in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England, was christened on 17 Sep 1780 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England, died in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England, and was buried on 26 May 1813 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Another name for Hugh was Hugh Baxter.
iii. Mary Leadbetter was born in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England and was christened on 8 Jun 1788 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Mary married Richard Wright on 14 Jan 1806 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Richard was born in Poolside, North Meols, Lancashire, England and was christened on 19 Feb 1786 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England.
iv. Ellen Leadbetter was born in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England and was christened on 10 Jun 1792.
v. Richard Leadbetter was born in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England and was christened on 6 Apr 1794.
vi. Thomas Leadbeater was born in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England and was christened on 28 Feb 1796 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Another name for Thomas was Thomas Leadbetter. Thomas married Margaretta Blimpson? on 11 Jun 1816 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Margaretta was born about 1798 and died before 1871. Another name for Margaretta was Margaret.
vii. William Leadbeater was born in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England and was christened on 3 Mar 1799 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Another name for William was William Leadbetter. William married Ann Binson (3) on 8 Apr 1823 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Ann was born in Hesketh Bank, Lancashire, England and was christened on 6 Feb 1803 in All Saints, Becconsall Lane, Hesketh with Becconsall, Lancashire, England. Another name for Ann was Ann Benson.
viii. Alice Leadbetter (christened on 11 Apr 1802, born in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England). Alice married Richard Abram on 5 Dec 1822 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Richard was born in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England, was christened on 31 Dec 1797 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England, died in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England, and was buried on 5 Dec 1863 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England.
ix. Margaret Leadbetter was born in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England and was christened on 8 Jul 1804.
x. Robert Leadbeater was born in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England and was christened on 22 Jun 1806 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Another name for Robert was Robert Leadbetter. Robert married Mary Ball (4) on 14 Nov 1826 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Mary was born in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England, was christened on 17 Jan 1808 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England, died in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England, and was buried on 10 Feb 1848 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England.
xi. Peter Leadbeater was born in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England and was christened on 16 Jul 1809 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Another name for Peter was Peter Leadbetter. Peter married Mary Ascroft on 4 Mar 1828 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Mary was born in Tarleton, Lancashire, England, was christened on 7 Oct 1810 in St Mary, Tarleton, Lancashire, England, died in Fleetwood, Fylde, Lancashire, England, and was buried on 8 May 1846 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Another name for Mary was Mary Ashcroft. Peter next married Jane Bibby on 4 Aug 1846 in St John, Preston, Lancashire, England. Jane was born in 1812 in Tarleton, Lancashire, England and died in 1881 aged 69.
19. Anne Peet,(1) daughter of Richard Peet and Jennet Ball, was born in
Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England, was christened on 8 Dec 1765
in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England, died in
Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England, and was buried on 15 Oct 1855
in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Another
name for Anne was Nanny.
General Notes: chr 1765 Dec 8 Anne d. of Richard & Jennet Peet of Banks
Burial: 15 Oct 1855 St Cuthbert, North Meols, Lancashire, England
Ann Leadbetter -
Age: 91 years
Abode: Banks
Buried by: B.Swift Curate
Register: Burials 1846 - 1867, Page 93, Entry 744
Source: LDS Film 1796146
NB Calculated aged at death 89 years, based on baptism date.
Anne married Thomas Leadbetter on 21 Sep 1784 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown,
North Meols, Lancashire, England. Thomas was born in Crossens, North
Meols, Lancashire, England, was christened on 21 Nov 1762 in St Cuthbert,
Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England, died in Banks, North Meols,
Lancashire, England, and was buried on 15 Feb 1831 in St Cuthbert,
Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Another name for Thomas
was Thomas Leadbeater.
20. John Wareing, son of Hugh Waring and Margery Harrison, was born in
Crossens, North Meols, Lancashire, England, was christened on 19 Jun
1763 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England,
died in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England, and was buried on 28
Oct 1836 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England.
Another name for John was John Waring.
General Notes: chr 1763 June 19 John s. of Hugh & Margery Wareing of Crossens
marriage 1786 March 2 John Waring & Ellin Wright
burial 1836 October 28 John War[e]ing, Banks, age 73
John married Ellen Wright on 2 Mar 1786 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North
Meols, Lancashire, England. Ellen was born in Marshside, North Meols,
Lancashire, England, was christened on 27 Jun 1762 in St Cuthbert,
Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England, died in Banks, North Meols,
Lancashire, England, and was buried on 8 Mar 1830 in St Cuthbert,
Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Another name for Ellen was
Ellin.
Children from this marriage were:
i. Margery Wareing was born in Cop End, Blowick, North Meols, Lancashire, England and was christened on 4 Feb 1787 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Margery married John Blondell on 7 May 1811 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. John was born in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England and was christened on 29 Dec 1782 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Another name for John was John Blundell.
ii. Thomas Wareing was born in Crossens, North Meols, Lancashire, England and was christened on 2 Nov 1788 in
Dotty
WOW
I'm blown away...you must have RSI after that lot...
Dotty
Germaine
Well just shows what little tibits you can find on the forum.
Thanks Baxter the info on the Leadbetters.
My 3xg Grandfather was Peter Leadbetter. I have looked for a while for my 3X Grandmothers grave I have his and his second wife's Janes but couldn't find where Mary was buried never thought he could have taken her back to Churchtown thought she must have been in an unmarked grave in Fleetwood somewhere.
Thanks again
Germaine
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Gosh looking at the death of Mary I always thought she died about 2 years after coming to Fleetwood 1842 making it 1844 but it says she died May 1846 and by Aug he remarried. I doubt he had kept her body in the cupboard for two years would he
Didn't mourn for very long did he.
Dotty
Necessity
My g.grandfather remarried after a year but he had 4 young children. He married a widow and they were together for 30years. Maybe your rellie had a family to bring up...can't have been easy in those days!
Nice day here, what's it like there?
Dotty
Germaine
Yes he did Dotty had 6 eldest 16, youngest 2, but 3 months .
His second wife must have been either desperate or a very nice lady.
They went on to have 3 more.
No wonder there are so many Leadbetters in Fleetwood
Lovely day here think I might venture out into the garden for 10 mins.
Germaine
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Jane
You might find she was a neighbour, a family friend and had been helping while his wife was sick. I think there were lots of marriages of convenience happened.
Germaine
Could be or maybe an old friend of family.
Something to look at.
Germaine
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hoping for a short cut!
