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SPENCERPosted by DottyI am looking for details of James SPENCER born about 1781 and married to a Margret BARTON 10 Dec 1805. He does not appear on the North Meols Parish Register according to NMFHS ONE for Spencer. Their children, Mary 1809, Thomas 1811, Ann 1814 and Samuel 1816 all appear and were born Churchtown. What can this mean...was he born somewhere else? Looking forward to hearing from all you knowledgeable peeps out there... Dotty 
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James SpencerHello DottyJames says he's 60 (ish) on the 1841 Census, but I think he was closer to 70. I haven't got a gravestone for him yet, but according to Joyce Otterstrom:- burial 1844 October 14 James Spencer of Rowe Lane age 73 This fits in with this baptism chr 1771 July 7 James s. of Richard & Mary Spensor of Rowe Lane and James does name his first son Richard and his first daughter Mary, it does seem to fit. I've got all of James & Margaret Spencer's children married off, but I haven't updated my records on this line since the 1841 Census came out. I'll fill the 1841 returns in and then I'll post what I've got. Regards Steve |
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This is what I've got on James Spencer and his descendants so far.
Descendants of James Spencer First Generation 1. James Spencer, son of Richard Spencer and Mary Critchley, was born in Rowe Lane, North Meols, Lancashire, England, was christened on 7 Jul 1771 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England, died in Rowe Lane, North Meols, Lancashire, England, and was buried on 14 Oct 1844 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. General Notes: chr 1771 July 7 James s. of Richard & Mary Spensor of Rowe Lane burial 1844 October 14 James Spencer of Rowe Lane age 73 From North Meols Census 6th June 1841, District 6, Page 2, Schedule no. 3 Moss Lane, Church Town James Spencer 60 Collector of Highway Rates (all) born in Lancashire Samuel Spencer 25 Silk Weaver Thomas Spencer 30 Silk Weaver Jenny Spencer 30 Peggy Spencer 9 Margery Spencer 5 Mary Spencer 2 NB All those over 15 had their ages rounded down to the nearest 5 or 10 years on the 1841 Census. Thomas & Jenny are a married couple, and the 3 children are theirs. (1, 2) Noted events in his life were: * He worked as a weaver. * He worked as a Collector of Highway Rates on 6 Jun 1841 in Moss Lane, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. James married Margrat Barton on 10 Dec 1805 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Margrat was born about 1784 of Church Town, , Lancashire, England,(3, 4) died in Moss Lane, North Meols, Lancashire, England, and was buried on 14 Jan 1841 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Another name for Margrat was Margaret. Children from this marriage were: + 2 M i. Richard Spencer was born in Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England, was christened on 2 Sep 1804 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England, and died in Mar 1878 in Ormskirk Registration District, Lancashire at age 73. Richard married Elizabeth Halsall (c. 16 Oct 1803) on 29 Nov 1831 in North Meols, Lancashire, England. + 3 M ii. William Spencer(5) was born in Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England and was christened on 9 Nov 1806 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. William married Isabella Bradshaw (c. 23 Oct 1803) on 27 Sep 1824 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. + 4 F iii. Mary Spencer(5) was christened on 5 Feb 1809 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Mary married. Mary married Richard Tomlinson (c. 1 Aug 1813, buried 20 Sep 1842) September Quarter 1839 in Ormskirk Registration District, Lancashire. + 5 M iv. Thomas Spencer(5) was born in Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England, was christened on 21 Apr 1811 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England, and died before 1861. Thomas married Jenny Halsall (c. 6 Jul 1812) on 27 Sep 1831 in North Meols, Lancashire, England. + 6 F v. Ann Spencer(5) was born in Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England and was christened on 16 Jan 1814 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Ann married Richard Wright (c. 16 Aug 1812) on 5 Jun 1836 in North Meols, Lancashire, England. + 7 M vi. Samuel Spencer(5) was christened on 18 Feb 1816 in Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England and died before 1871. Samuel married Betty Fairclough (b. Abt 1824) December Quarter 1854 in Ormskirk Registration District, Lancashire. Second Generation (Children) 2. Richard Spencer was born in Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England, was christened on 2 Sep 1804 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England, and died in Mar 1878 in Ormskirk Registration District, Lancashire at age 73. Another name for Richard was Richard Spencer Barton. General Notes: From North Meols Parish Register 1732 - 1812, Christenings 02 September 1804 Richd Spencer s. of Margt Barton, Church Town, natural child FILE - North Meols. Order of filiation and maintenance of bastard son of James Spencer, weaver, and Peggy Barton, singlewoman - ref. QSP/2506/42 - date: 1804 17 Sep Bastardy orders-Confirmation Date of confirmation 63 W. 8 October 44 G.iii 1804, date of order 17th September, Putative Father James Spencer, Township Northmeols, occupation weaver, Childs name or sex male, Mother Peggy Barton expences due 1 18 0, amount of payment due 1s. 3d week 29 Nov 1831 Richard Spencer & Elizabeth Halsall, both of this parish wit: Mary Spencer, Willm Rushton From North Meols Census 6th June 1841, District 6, Page 27, Schedule no. 123 Churchtown Richard Spencer 35 Silk Weaver (all) born in Lancashire Elizabeth Spencer 35 Peggy Spencer 4 James Spencer 3 months / Jenny Halsall 70 Independant Jane Harker 12 NB Jenny Halsall is Elizabeth's mother, and Jane Harker is Elizabeth's daughter. From North Meols Census 30th March 1851, District 1f, Page 30, Schedule no. 104 Back Lane, Churchtown Richard Spencer Head Mar 46 Handloom Weaver (silk) born N Meols Elizabeth Spencer Wife Mar 37 Silk Winder Jane Harker Step Dau Unm 22 Handloom Weaver (silk) Margaret Spencer Dau Unm 14 Handloom Weaver (silk) James Spencer Son 10 Scholar Ann Spencer Dau 8 Scholar From North Meols Census 7th April 1861, District 4, Page 25, Schedule no. 142 Back Road, Churchtown Richard Spencer Head Mar 57 Silk Weaver born Churchtown Elizabeth Spencer Wife Mar 58 Silk Weavers Wife James Spencer Son Unm 20 Silk Weaver Ann Spencer Dau 18 From North Meols Census 2nd April 1871, District 4, Page 7, Schedule no. 35 Churchtown, North Meols Richard Spencer Head Mar 66 Labourer born North Meols Elizabeth Spencer Wife Mar 67 Washerwoman Peggy Threlfall Dau Wid 34 Washerwoman John Threlfall G/Son Unm 10 Scholar Henry Threlfall G/Son Unm 8 Scholar (6, 7, 8) Noted events in his life were: * He worked as a Silk Weaver on 6 Jun 1841 in Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. * He worked as a Handloom weaver (silk) on 30 Mar 1851 in Back Lane, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. * He worked as a Silk Weaver on 7 Apr 1861 in Back Road, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. * He worked as a Labourer on 2 Apr 1871 in Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Richard married Elizabeth Halsall on 29 Nov 1831 in North Meols, Lancashire, England. Elizabeth was born in Moss Lane, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England and was christened on 16 Oct 1803 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Noted events in her life were: * She worked as a Silk Winder on 30 Mar 1851 in Back Lane, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. * She worked as a Washerwoman on 2 Apr 1871 in Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Children from this marriage were: + 8 F i. Peggy Spencer was born about 1837 in Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Peggy married Hugh Threlfall (b. 29 Dec 1835, d. Bef 1871) December Quarter 1858 in Ormskirk Registration District, Lancashire. 9 M ii. James Spencer was born in 1841 in Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. General Notes: 3 Months old on the 1841 Census (6th June). Noted events in his life were: * He worked as a Silk Weaver on 7 Apr 1861 in Back Road, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. 10 F iii. Ann Spencer was born about 1843 in Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. 3. William Spencer(5) was born in Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England and was christened on 9 Nov 1806 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. General Notes: chr 1806 Nov 9 William s. of James & Pegy Spencer, Church Town marriage 1824 September 27 William x Spenser [Spencer] & Isabel x Bradshaw, both of this parish witness John Barton, William Leadbetter From North Meols Census 6th June 1841, District 4, Pages 7 & 8, Schedule no. 31 Hawes Side William Spencer 35 Fisherman (all) born in Lancashire Isabella Spencer 35 John Spencer 15 James Spencer 13 William Spencer 12 Samuel Spencer 11 Richard Spencer 7 Thomas Spencer 3 Henry Spencer 9 months From North Meols Census 30th March 1851, District 1c, Page 38, Schedule no. 130 Hawside Lane, Hawside William Spencer Head Mar 47 Fisherman born Churchtown Isabella Spencer Wife Mar 48 Birkdale William Spencer Son Unm 22 Fisherman Richard Spencer Son Unm 17 Fisherman Thomas Spencer Son Unm 13 Fisherman Hawside Henry Spencer Son 11 Scholar Magaret Spencer Dau 7 Scholar From North Meols Census 7th April 1861, District 10, Page 1, Schedule no. 3 Hawseside Wm Spencer Head Mar 55 Fisherman born Birkdale Isabella Spencer Wife Mar 57 Housekeeper Thomas Spencer Son Unm 23 Fisherman Henry Spencer Son Unm 20 Fisherman Margaret Spencer Dau Unm 17 Fishseller From North Meols Census 2nd April 1871, District 11, Page 28, Schedule no. 148 53 Kensington Road William Spencer Head Mar 65 Retired Fisherman born Churchtown Isabella Spencer Wife Mar 66 Southport Isabella Spencer G/Dau 14 Servant Hannah Wright G/Dau 7 Scholar (9, 10) Noted events in his life were: * He worked as a Fisherman on 6 Jun 1841 in Hawes Side, North Meols, Lancashire, England. * He worked as a Fisherman on 30 Mar 1851 in Hawside Lane, North Meols, Lancashire, England. * He worked as a Fisherman on 7 Apr 1861 in Hawse Side, North Meols, Lancashire, England. * He worked as a Retired Fisherman on 2 Apr 1871 in Kensington Road, Southport, North Meols, Lancashire, England. William married Isabella Bradshaw on 27 Sep 1824 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Isabella was born in Birkdale, North Meols, Lancashire, England and was christened on 23 Oct 1803 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Another name for Isabella was Isabel Barlow. Noted events in her life were: * She worked as a Housekeeper on 7 Apr 1861 in Hawse Side, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Children from this marriage were: 11 M i. James Spencer was born in Birkdale, North Meols, Lancashire, England and was christened on 24 Sep 1826 in North Meols, Lancashire, England. General Notes: From NMFHS Spencer one name extracts 1594 - 1837, Baptisms Sep 24 1826 James s. of William & Isabel Spencer of Birkdale (11) 12 M ii. William Spencer was born in Birkdale, North Meols, Lancashire, England and was christened on 25 Jan 1829 in North Meols, Lancashire, England. General Notes: From NMFHS Spencer one name extracts 1594 - 1837, Baptisms Jan 25 1829 William s. of William & Isabel Spencer of Birkdale (12) Noted events in his life were: * He worked as a FIsherman on 30 Mar 1851 in Hawside Lane, North Meols, Lancashire, England. 13 M iii. Samuel Spencer was born in Birkdale, North Meols, Lancashire, England and was christened on 13 Mar 1831 in North Meols, Lancashire, England. General Notes: From NMFHS Spencer one name extracts 1594 - 1837, Baptisms Mar 13 1831 Samuel s. of William & Isabel Spencer of Birkdale (13) + 14 M iv. Richard Spencer was born in Birkdale, North Meols, Lancashire, England and was christened on 16 Jun 1833 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Richard married Alice Lawson (b. 2 Mar 1834, d. 1869) June Quarter 1855 in Ormskirk Registration District, Lancashire. Richard next married Emma Williams (b. Abt 1830, d. 1893) December Quarter 1869 in Ormskirk Registration District, Lancashire. Richard next married Elizabeth. 15 M v. Thomas Spencer was born about 1837 in Hawside Lane, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Noted events in his life were: * He worked as a Fisherman on 30 Mar 1851 in Hawside Lane, North Meols, Lancashire, England. * He worked as a Fisherman on 7 Apr 1861 in Hawse Side, North Meols, Lancashire, England. 16 M vi. Henry Spencer was born in 1840 in Hawside Lane, North Meols, Lancashire, England. General Notes: 9 Months old on the 1841 Census (6th June). Noted events in his life were: * He worked as a Fisherman on 7 Apr 1861 in Hawse Side, North Meols, Lancashire, England. + 17 F vii. Margaret Spencer was born about 1843 in Hawside Lane, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Margaret married Henry Wright (b. Abt 1840). 4. Mary Spencer(5) was christened on 5 Feb 1809 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. General Notes: chr 1809 Feb 5 Mary d. of James & Margaret Spencer From North Meols Census 30th March 1851, District 1e, Page 9, Schedule no. 24 Rowe Lane, Churchtown Mary Tomlinson Head Mar 42 Handloom Weaver Silk born North Meols Betty Tomlinson Dau Unm 13 Handloom Weaver Silk James Tomlinson Son Unm 10 Scholar From North Meols Census 7th April 1861, District 6, Page 18, Schedule no. 77 Rowe Lane, Churchtown Mary Tomlinson Head Wid 56 Silk Weaver born North Meols James Tomlinson Son Unm 21 Tailor Betty Spencer Dau Unm 24 Silk Weaver William Andrews Boarder Mar 50 Silk Weaver Ashton under Lyne NB Mary's surname has originally been written as Spencer and then Tomlinson has been written over the top. Boarder William Andrews' has no birth place entered, but next door is Samuel Spencer (Mary's brother) and his birth place has been given incorrectly as Ashton under Lyne, so it probably should refer to William Andrew's birth place. (14, 15, 16) Noted events in her life were: * She worked as a Handloom Weaver Silk on 30 Mar 1851 in Roe Lane, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. * She worked as a Silk Weaver on 7 Apr 1861 in Roe Lane, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. * Address -: Annuitant, 2 Apr 1871, Cottage, Roe Lane, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. * Address -: 3 Apr 1881, 100 Canning Road, North Meols, Lancashire, England. With widowed son-in-law Henry Johnson & family on the 1881 Census. Mary married. (b. Abt 1840) Her child was: + 18 F i. Betty Spencer was born in Moss Lane, North Meols, Lancashire, England, was christened on 17 Dec 1837 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England, and died before 1881. Betty married Henry Johnson (c. 17 Jul 1836) March Quarter 1865 in Ormskirk Registration District, Lancashire. Mary next married Richard Tomlinson September Quarter 1839 in Ormskirk Registration District, Lancashire. Richard was born in Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England, was christened on 1 Aug 1813 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England, died in Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England, and was buried on 20 Sep 1842. Noted events in his life were: * He worked as a Silk Weaver on 6 Jun 1841 in Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Children from this marriage were: + 19 M i. John Tomlinson was born in 1839 in Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England, died on 1 Dec 1879 at age 40, and was buried in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. John married Mary (b. Abt 1835, d. 25 Aug 1890). + 20 M ii. James Tomlinson was born in 1840 in North Meols, Lancashire, England. James married Margaret Bolton (b. Abt 1841) March Quarter 1865 in Ormskirk Registration District, Lancashire. 5. Thomas Spencer(5) was born in Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England, was christened on 21 Apr 1811 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England, and died before 1861. General Notes: chr 1811 Apr 21 Thomas s. of James & Margaret Spencer, Church Town From NMFHS Spencer one name extracts 1594 - 1837, Marriages Sep 27 1831 Thomas Spencer & Jane Halsall With widowed father on the 1841 Census. From North Meols Census 30th March 1851, District 1e, Page 19, Schedule no. 51 Moss Lane, Churchtown North Meols Thomas Spencer Head Mar 40 Handloom Weaver Silk born North Meols Jenny Spencer Wife Mar 38 Handloom Weaver Silk Peggy Spencer Dau Unm 19 Handloom Weaver Silk Margery Spencer Dau 18 Handloom Weaver Silk Mary Ann Spencer Dau 12 Handloom Weaver Silk James Spencer Son 9 Scholar Henry Spencer Son 7 Scholar Jenny Ellen Spencer Dau 5 Scholar Samuel Spencer Son 2 NB Thomas dies before the next Census. (17, 18) Noted events in his life were: * He worked as a Silk Weaver on 6 Jun 1841 in Moss Lane, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. * He worked as a Handloom Weaver (silk) on 30 Mar 1851 in Moss Lane, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Thomas married Jenny Halsall on 27 Sep 1831 in North Meols, Lancashire, England. Jenny was born in Moss Lane, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England and was christened on 6 Jul 1812 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Another name for Jenny was Jane. Noted events in her life were: * She worked as a Handloom Weaver (silk) on 30 Mar 1851 in Moss Lane, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. * She worked as a Housekeeper on 7 Apr 1861 in Moss Lane, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. * She worked as a Farmer on 2 Apr 1871 in Moss Lane, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Children from this marriage were: 21 F i. Peggy Spencer was born about 1832 in North Meols, Lancashire, England. Noted events in her life were: * She worked as a Handloom Weaver (silk) on 30 Mar 1851 in Moss Lane, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. * She worked as a Silk Weaver on 7 Apr 1861 in Moss Lane, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. 22 F ii. Margery Spencer was born about 1833 in North Meols, Lancashire, England. Noted events in her life were: * She worked as a Handloom Weaver (silk) on 30 Mar 1851 in Moss Lane, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. 23 F iii. Mary Ann Spencer was born about 1839 in North Meols, Lancashire, England. Noted events in her life were: * She worked as a Handloom Weaver (silk) on 30 Mar 1851 in Moss Lane, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. * She worked as a Silk Weaver on 7 Apr 1861 in Moss Lane, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. + 24 M iv. James Spencer was born about 1842 in North Meols, Lancashire, England. James married Alice (b. Abt 1842). + 25 M v. Henry Spencer was born about 1844 in North Meols, Lancashire, England, died on 30 Nov 1907 about age 63, and was buried in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Henry married Ellen Blundell (b. Abt 1848, d. 13 Jun 1914) March Quarter 1873 in Ormskirk Registration District, Lancashire. + 26 F vi. Jenny Ellen Spencer was born about 1846 in North Meols, Lancashire, England. Jenny married Thomas Taylor (b. Abt 1841, d. Bef 1901) December Quarter 1866 in Ormskirk Registration District, Lancashire. + 27 M vii. Samuel Spencer was born about 1849 in North Meols, Lancashire, England. Samuel married Cicely Rymer (b. Abt 1849) March Quarter 1871 in Ormskirk Registration District, Lancashire. + 28 M viii. John Spencer was born about 1853 in North Meols, Lancashire, England. John married Ann (b. Abt 1854). 6. Ann Spencer(5) was born in Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England and was christened on 16 Jan 1814 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. General Notes: chr 1814 Jan 16 Ann d. James & Margaret Spencer, Churchtown, weaver (19) Ann married Richard Wright on 5 Jun 1836 in North Meols, Lancashire, England. Richard was born in Marshside, North Meols, Lancashire, England and was christened on 16 Aug 1812 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Children from this marriage were: 29 F i. Peggy Wright was born in 1835. 30 M ii. Richard Wright was born on 4 Aug 1837 of Marshside, North Meols, Lancashire, England. 31 M iii. James Wright was born on 19 Mar 1839 of Marshside, North Meols, Lancashire, England. 32 M iv. John Wright was born on 27 Dec 1847 of Marshside, North Meols, Lancashire, England. + 33 M v. Samuel Wright was born on 31 Oct 1849 in Marshside, North Meols, Lancashire, England, died on 27 Sep 1891 at age 41, and was buried in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Samuel married Margaret Johnson (b. Abt 1847, d. 23 Jan 1924) June Quarter 1874 in Ormskirk Registration District, Lancashire. 34 M vi. Robert Wright was born on 31 Oct 1849 of Marshside, North Meols, Lancashire, England. 7. Samuel Spencer(5) was christened on 18 Feb 1816 in Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England and died before 1871. General Notes: chr 1816 Feb 18 Samuel s. James & Margaret Spencer, Churchtown, Weaver From North Meols Census 7th April 1861, District 6, Page 18, Schedule no. 78 Rowe Lane, Churchtown Samuel Spencer Head Mar 45 Farm Labourer born Ashton under Line (?) Betty Spencer Wife Mar 36 Washer Woman North Meols James Spencer Son Unm 5 Scholar Isabella Spencer Dau 3 Scholar Thomas Spencer Son 2 NB I believe Samuel's burth place was entered incorrectly. The entry directly above Samuel on the Census is for William Andrews listed as a "Border" with Mary Tomlinson (widow, and Samuel's sister) and her son James. William Andrews birthplace is left blank, and I think that he may have been the one born in Ashton-under-Lyne. (20) Noted events in his life were: * He worked as a Silk Weaver on 6 Jun 1841 in Moss Lane, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. * He worked as a Farm Labourer on 7 Apr 1861 in Roe Lane, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Samuel married Betty Fairclough December Quarter 1854 in Ormskirk Registration District, Lancashire. Betty was born about 1824 in North Meols, Lancashire, England. Noted events in her life were: * She worked as a Washer Woman on 7 Apr 1861 in Roe Lane, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. * She worked as a Washerwoman on 2 Apr 1871 in Roe Lane, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. * She worked as a Laundress on 3 Apr 1881 in Rectory Lane, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Children from this marriage were: + 35 M i. James Spencer was born about 1855 in North Meols, Lancashire, England. James married Esther Gaskell (b. Abt 1862) March Quarter 1882 in Ormskirk Registration District, Lancashire. 36 F ii. Isabella Spencer was born about 1857 in North Meols, Lancashire, England. Noted events in her life were: * She worked as a Laundress on 3 Apr 1881 in Rectory Lane, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. 37 M iii. Thomas Spencer was born about 1858 in North Meols, Lancashire, England. Third Generation (Grandchildren) 8. Peggy Spencer was born about 1837 in Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Another name for Peggy was Margaret. General Notes: From North Meols Census 3rd April 1881, District 4, Page 2, Schedule no. 8 Church Brow, Churchtown Peggy Threlfall Head Widow 44 Laundress born North Meols Henry Threlfall Son Unm 18 Labourer at Botanic Gardens With Son Henry and daughter-in-law Jenny on School Road, Churchtown in 1891 Census. Noted events in her life were: * She worked as a Handloom Weaver (silk) on 30 Mar 1851 in Back Lane, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. * She worked as a Silk Weaver on 7 Apr 1861 in Back Road, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. * She worked as a Washerwoman on 2 Apr 1871 in Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. * She worked as a Laundress on 3 Apr 1881 in Church Brow, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. * She worked as a Laundress on 5 Apr 1891 in School Road, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Peggy married Hugh Threlfall December Quarter 1858 in Ormskirk Registration District, Lancashire. Hugh was born on 29 Dec 1835 in Blowick, North Meols, Lancashire, England, was christened on 7 Feb 1836 in Methodist Chapel, Southport, North Meols Parish, Lancashire, England, and died before 1871. Noted events in his life were: * He worked as a Handloom Weaver Silk on 30 Mar 1851 in Park Lane, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. * He worked as a Silk Weaver on 7 Apr 1861 in Back Road, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Children from this marriage were: 38 M i. John Threlfall was born in 1860 in Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. General Notes: 9 month old on 1861 Census (7th April) + 39 M ii. Henry Threlfall was born about 1862 in North Meols, Lancashire, England, died on 23 Aug 1948 about age 86, and was buried in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Henry married Jenny Mawdesley (b. 1866, d. 1 Jan 1940) September Quarter 1888 in Ormskirk Registration District, Lancashire. 14. Richard Spencer was born in Birkdale, North Meols, Lancashire, England and was christened on 16 Jun 1833 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. General Notes: From NMFHS Spencer one name extracts 1594 - 1837, Baptisms Jun 16 1833 Richard s. of William & Isabel Spencer of Birkdale From North Meols Census 7th April 1861, District 10, Page 5, Schedule no. 23 Hawse Side Richard Spencer Head Mar 27 Fisherman born North Meols Alice Spencer Wife Mar 27 Charwoman Isabella Spencer Dau 5 Scholar Thomas W Spencer Son 3 Scholar Ellen Spencer Dau 1 Scholar Mary Marshell Servant 13 Housemaid NB Alice Spencer dies, probably in 1869 (Jan-Feb-Mar Quarter 1869, Ormskirk Registration District, Volume 8b, Page 515) aged 35 years. Richard marries Emma Williams later the same year (Oct-Nov-Dec 1869, Ormskirk Registration District, Volume 8b, Page 1053). From North Meols Census 2nd April 1871, District 10, Page 5, Schedule no. 28 17 Mount Street Richard Spencer Head Mar 38 Fishmonger born Southport Emma Spencer Wife Mar 40 Fishermonger's Wife Wales Thomas Spencer Son 13 Fishmonger's Son Lancashire, Southport Ellen Spencer Dau 11 Scholar William Spencer Son 9 Scholar Henry Spencer Son 6 Scholar From North Meols Census 3rd April 1881, District 12, Pages 38 & 39, Schedule no. 213 17 Mount Street Richard Spencer Head Mar 47 Coal Dealer born North Meols Emma Spencer Wife Mar 49 Fish Dealer Liverpool Ellen Spencer Dau Unm 21 Charwoman Southport William Spencer Son 18 General Labourer Henry Spencer Son 16 Coal Seller Jno Williams Serv 12 Coal Seller NB Emma gives Liverpool as her birth place on this Census for some reason, but gives Wales again in 1891. From North Meols Census 5th April 1891, District 14, Page 34, Schedule no. 241 23 East Street Richard Spencer Head M 57 Coal Dealer & Fisherman born B'dale Common Emma Spencer Wife M 60 Wales, Denbigh NB Emma dies in 1893 (Apr-May-Jun 1893 Ormskirk Registration Districy, Volume 8b, Page 585) aged 63 years. From Southport Census 31st March 1901, District 38, Page 15, Schedule no. 90 13 Maple Street Richard Spencer Head M 67 Independant Methodist Preacher born Southport Elizabeth Spencer Wife M 73 Living on own means London (21) Noted events in his life were: * He worked as a Fisherman on 30 Mar 1851 in Hawside Lane, North Meols, Lancashire, England. * He worked as a Fisherman on 7 Apr 1861 in Hawse Side, North Meols, Lancashire, England. * He worked as a Fishmonger on 2 Apr 1871 in 17 Mount Street, North Meols, Lancashire, England. * He worked as a Coal Dealer on 3 Apr 1881 in 17 Mount Street, North Meols, Lancashire, England. * He worked as a Coal Dealer & Fisherman on 5 Apr 1891 in 23 East Street, North Meols, Lancashire, England. * He worked as an Independant Methodist Preacher on 31 Mar 1901 in 13 Maple Street, Southport, Lancashire, England. Richard married Alice Lawson June Quarter 1855 in Ormskirk Registration District, Lancashire. Alice was born on 2 Mar 1834 in Hawes Side, North Meols, Lancashire, England, was christened on 27 Apr 1834 in Methodist Chapel, Southport, North Meols Parish, Lancashire, England, and died in 1869 at age 35. Noted events in her life were: * She worked as a Fishmonger on 30 Mar 1851 in Hawes Side Lane, North Meols, Lancashire, England. * She worked as a Charwoman on 7 Apr 1861 in Hawse Side, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Children from this marriage were: 40 F i. Isabella Spencer was born about 1855 in North Meols, Lancashire, England. 41 M ii. Thomas W Spencer was born about 1857 in North Meols, Lancashire, England. 42 F iii. Ellen Spencer was born about 1859 in North Meols, Lancashire, England. Noted events in her life were: * She worked as a Charwoman on 3 Apr 1881 in 17 Mount Street, North Meols, Lancashire, England. 43 M iv. William Spencer was born about 1861 in Southport, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Noted events in his life were: * He worked as a General Labourer on 3 Apr 1881 in 17 Mount Street, North Meols, Lancashire, England. 44 M v. Henry Spencer was born about 1864 in Southport, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Noted events in his life were: * He worked as a Coal Seller on 3 Apr 1881 in 17 Mount Street, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Richard next married Emma Williams December Quarter 1869 in Ormskirk Registration District, Lancashire. Emma was born about 1830 in Denbigh, Wales and died in 1893 about age 63. Noted events in her life were: * She worked as a Fish Dealer on 3 Apr 1881 in 17 Mount Street, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Richard next married Elizabeth. Elizabeth was born in London, Middlesex, England. 17. Margaret Spencer was born about 1843 in Hawside Lane, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Noted events in her life were: * She worked as a Fishseller on 7 Apr 1861 in Hawse Side, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Margaret married Henry Wright. Henry was born about 1840 in Southport, North Meols, Lancashire, England. 18. Betty Spencer was born in Moss Lane, North Meols, Lancashire, England, was christened on 17 Dec 1837 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England, and died before 1881. Another name for Betty was Elizabeth. General Notes: chr 1837 December 17 Betty d. Mary Spencer, Moss Lane, spinster (22) Noted events in her life were: * She worked as a Handloom Weaver Silk on 30 Mar 1851 in Roe Lane, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. * She worked as a Silk Weaver on 7 Apr 1861 in Roe Lane, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Betty married Henry Johnson March Quarter 1865 in Ormskirk Registration District, Lancashire. Henry was born in Marshside, North Meols, Lancashire, England and was christened on 17 Jul 1836 in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Noted events in his life were: * He worked as an Agricultural Labourer on 7 Apr 1861 in Blowick, North Meols, Lancashire, England. * He worked as a Labourer on 2 Apr 1871 in 18 Ormskirk Road, Blowick, North Meols, Lancashire, England. * He worked as a Labourer on 3 Apr 1881 in 100 Canning Road, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Children from this marriage were: 45 M i. James Johnson was born about 1865 in North Meols, Lancashire, England. Noted events in his life were: * He worked as a Labourer on 3 Apr 1881 in 100 Canning Road, North Meols, Lancashire, England. 46 M ii. Peter Johnson was born about 1867 in North Meols, Lancashire, England. + 47 M iii. Samuel Johnson was born about 1872 in Blowick, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Samuel married Emily Gaskell (b. 1870) June Quarter 1893 in Ormskirk Registration District, Lancashire. 19. John Tomlinson was born in 1839 in Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England, died on 1 Dec 1879 at age 40, and was buried in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. General Notes: 1 and a half years old on the 1841 Census (6th June). From North Meols Census 2nd April 1871, District 4, Page 22, Schedule no. 103 Churchtown Street, Churchtown John Tomlinson Head Mar 31 Tailor and Draper born North Meols Mary Tomlinson Wife Mar 36 Tailors Wife Billinge Amos Tomlinson Son Unm 6 Scholar North Meols Clara Tomlinson Dau Unm 4 Scholar Richard Tomlinson Son Unm 5 months Elizabeth Miller Servant Unm 15 General Domestic Servant Noted events in his life were: * He worked as an Apprentic Tailor on 7 Apr 1861 in Back Road, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. With uncle George Tomlinson (Master Tailor) on the 1861 Census. * He worked as a Tailor & Draper on 2 Apr 1871 in Churchtown Street, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. John married Mary. Mary was born about 1835 in Billinge, Lancashire, England, died on 25 Aug 1890 about age 55, and was buried in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Noted events in her life were: * She worked as a Draper: Tailor employing 1 man and 1 boy on 3 Apr 1881 in Churchtown Street (Back Cottage) North Meols. Children from this marriage were: + 48 M i. Amos Tomlinson J.P.(23, 24) was born about 1864 in Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England, died on 12 Jan 1940 about age 76, and was buried in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Amos married Lydia Jane Taylor (b. Abt 1865, d. 12 May 1922) June Quarter 1895 in Ormskirk Registration District, Lancashire. + 49 F ii. Clara Tomlinson was born about 1866 in Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Clara married John Mawdesley (b. Abt 1862) June Quarter 1890 in Ormskirk Registration District, Lancashire. 50 M iii. Jonathan Tomlinson was born in 1868, died on 17 Jan 1871 at age 3, and was buried in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. General Notes: Jonathan died 17th January 1871 aged 2 years and 6 months and is buried with his parents in St Cuthberts churchyard, Churchtown. Gravestone transcription entered in father's record. Calculated birth June/July 1868. 51 M iv. Richard Tomlinson was born in 1870 in North Meols, Lancashire, England. Noted events in his life were: * He worked as a Surveyors Clerk on 5 Apr 1891 in 72 Botanic Road, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. 52 F v. Eleanor Tomlinson was born in 1871, died on 24 Aug 1872 at age 1, and was buried in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. General Notes: Eleanor died August 24th 1872 aged 9 months and is buried with her parents in St Cuthberts churchyard, Churchtown. Gravestone transcription entered in father's record. + 53 F vi. Eleanor Tomlinson was born about 1874 in North Meols, Lancashire, England. Eleanor married William Dolan (b. Abt 1874) June Quarter 1898 in Ormskirk Registration District, Lancashire. 54 M vii. Jonathan Tomlinson was born about 1875 in North Meols, Lancashire, England. Noted events in his life were: * He worked as a Junior Clerk on 5 Apr 1891 in 72 Botanic Road, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. 20. James Tomlinson was born in 1840 in North Meols, Lancashire, England. General Notes: 6 Months old on the 1841 Census (6th June). From North Meols Census 2nd April 1871, District 24, Page 26, Schedule no. 136 Cottage, Row Lane, Churchtown James Tomlinson Head Mar 30 Tailor born North Meols Margaret Tomlinson Wife Mar 29 Mary Tomlinson Mother Wid 64 Annuitant From North Meols Census 3rd April 1881, District 6, Page 23, Schedule no. 81 Roe Lane, Churchtown James Tomlinson Head Mar 40 Tailor born North Meols Margaret Tomlinson Wife Mar 39 Laundress Thomas Tomlinson Son Mar 19 Painter NB Thomas seems to have been born several years before the marriage of James & Margaret, and there is a Thomas Spencer (grandson) with Margaret's parents on the 1871 Census that could well be him. Noted events in his life were: * He worked as a Tailor on 7 Apr 1861 in Roe Lane, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. * He worked as a Tailor on 2 Apr 1871 in Cottage, Roe Lane, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. * He worked as a Tailor on 3 Apr 1881 in Roe Lane, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. James married Margaret Bolton March Quarter 1865 in Ormskirk Registration District, Lancashire. Margaret was born about 1841 in North Meols, Lancashire, England. Noted events in her life were: * She worked as a Laundress on 3 Apr 1881 in Roe Lane, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. 24. James Spencer was born about 1842 in North Meols, Lancashire, England. General Notes: From North Meols Census 2nd April 1871, District 6, Page 27, Schedule no. 154 Moss Lane, Churchtown, North Meols James Spencer Head Mar 29 Agricultural Labourer born North Meols Alice Spencer Wife Mar 29 Wife Thomas Spencer Son 3 Alice Spencer Dau 11 months From North Meols Census 3rd April 1881, District 7, Page 39, Schedule no. 194 Pitts Lane, Scarisbrick, North Meols James Spencer Head Mar 39 Milk Dealer born North Meols Alice Spencer Wife Mar 39 Washerwoman Thomas Spencer Son 13 Alice Spencer Dau 10 Scholar Jenny Spencer Dau 8 Scholar Peggy Spencer Dau 5 Elizabeth Spencer Dau 2 James Spencer Son 7 months From North Meols Census 5th April 1891, District 7, Page 26, Schedule no. 174 Pitts House Lane, Scarisbrick, North Meols James Spencer Head M 49 Farmer born Southport Alice Spencer Wife M 49 Thomas Spencer Son S 23 Farmers Son Alice Spencer Dau S 20 Milkmaid Jenny Spencer Dau S 18 Dressmaker Peggy Spencer Dau S 15 Milkmaid Elizabeth Spencer Dau S 12 John Spencer Son S 8 Scholar James Spencer Son S 6 Scholar Noted events in his life were: * He worked as a Silk Weaver on 7 Apr 1861 in Moss Lane, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. * He worked as an Agricultural Labourer on 2 Apr 1871 in Moss Lane, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. * He worked as a Milk Dealer on 3 Apr 1881 in Pitts Lane, Scarisbrick, North Meols, Lancashire. * He worked as a Farmer on 5 Apr 1891 in Pitts Lane, Scarisbrick, North Meols, Lancashire. James married Alice. Alice was born about 1842 in North Meols, Lancashire, England. Noted events in her life were: * She worked as a Washerwoman on 3 Apr 1881 in Pitts Lane, Scarisbrick, North Meols, Lancashire. Children from this marriage were: + 55 M i. Thomas Spencer was born about 1868 in North Meols, Lancashire, England. Thomas married Isabella Rimmer (b. Abt 1870) March Quarter 1892 in Ormskirk Registration District, Lancashire. 56 F ii. Alice Spencer was born in 1870 in North Meols, Lancashire, England. Noted events in her life were: * She worked as a Milkmaid on 5 Apr 1891 in Pitts Lane, Scarisbrick, North Meols, Lancashire. 57 F iii. Jenny Spencer was born about 1873 in North Meols, Lancashire, England. Noted events in her life were: * She worked as a Dressmaker on 5 Apr 1891 in Pitts Lane, Scarisbrick, North Meols, Lancashire. 58 F iv. Peggy Spencer was born about 1876 in North Meols, Lancashire, England. Noted events in her life were: * She worked as a Milkmaid on 5 Apr 1891 in Pitts Lane, Scarisbrick, North Meols, Lancashire. 59 F v. Elizabeth Spencer was born about 1879 in North Meols, Lancashire, England. 60 M vi. James Spencer was born in 1880 in North Meols, Lancashire, England and died before 1885. 61 M vii. John Spencer was born about 1883 in North Meols, Lancashire, England. 62 M viii. James Spencer was born about 1885 in North Meols, Lancashire, England. 25. Henry Spencer was born about 1844 in North Meols, Lancashire, England, died on 30 Nov 1907 about age 63, and was buried in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. General Notes: With Father-in-Law & family on 1881 Census From North Meols Census 5th April 1891, District 7, Page 4, Schedule no. 25 49 High Park Road, North Meols Henry Spencer Head M 49 Gardener born North Meols Ellen Spencer Wife M 44 Laundress Alice Spencer Dau S 14 Jenny Spencer Dau S 16 John Blundell Boarder W 71 Scavenger NB John Blundell should be listed as Father-in-Law. From Southport Census 31st March 1901, District 48, Page 27, Schedule no. 169 49 High Park Road Henry Spencer Head M 57 Gardener not Domestic on own account born Southport Ellen Spencer Wife M 53 Laundress on own account working at home Alice Spencer Dau S 26 Laundress on own account working at home Jenny Spencer Dau S 24 Laundress on own account working at home From gravestone in St Cuthberts churchyard, Churchtown In Memoriam Henry Spencer died Nov. 30th 1907, Also Ellen Spencer, his wife died June 13th 1914, Also Jenny Rigby, died June 5th 1909, Also Alice Spencer, died August 31st 1943, Noted events in his life were: * He worked as an Agricultural Labourer on 2 Apr 1871 in Moss Lane, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. * He worked as a Gardener on 3 Apr 1881 in 49a High Park Road, North Meols, Lancashire. * He worked as a Gardener on 5 Apr 1891 in 49 High Park Road, North Meols, Lancashire. * He worked as a Gardener (not domestic) working on own account on 31 Mar 1901 in 49 High Park Road, High Park, Southport, Lancashire, England. Henry married Ellen Blundell March Quarter 1873 in Ormskirk Registration District, Lancashire. Ellen was born about 1848 in North Meols, Lancashire, England, died on 13 Jun 1914 about age 66, and was buried in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Noted events in her life were: * She worked as a Silk Weaver on 7 Apr 1861 in Moss Lane, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. * She worked as a Char-woman on 2 Apr 1871 in Moss Lane, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. * She worked as a Laundress on 5 Apr 1891 in 49 High Park Road, North Meols, Lancashire. * She worked as a Laundress working on own account at home on 31 Mar 1901 in 49 High Park Road, High Park, Southport, Lancashire, England. Children from this marriage were: 63 F i. Alice Spencer was born about 1875 in North Meols, Lancashire, England, died on 31 Aug 1943 about age 68, and was buried in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. General Notes: Alice died August 31st 1943 and is buried with her parents in St Cuthberts churchyard, Churchtown. Gravestone transcription entered in father's record. Noted events in her life were: * She worked as a Laundress working on own account at home on 31 Mar 1901 in 49 High Park Road, High Park, Southport, Lancashire, England. + 64 F ii. Jenny Spencer was born about 1877 in North Meols, Lancashire, England, died on 5 Jun 1909 about age 32, and was buried in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Jenny married Thomas Rigby September Quarter 1901 in Ormskirk Registration District, Lancashire. 26. Jenny Ellen Spencer was born about 1846 in North Meols, Lancashire, England. Another name for Jenny was Jane. General Notes: From Southport Census 31st March 1901, District 46, Page 8, Schedule no. 48 115 Wennington Road, Southport Janey E Taylor Head Wid 54 Charwoman born Southport Rachael Taylor Dau S 19 Laundress Leah Taylor Dau S 18 Servant Domestic Emily Taylor Dau 15 Laundress Bertha Taylor Dau 13 Nurse Girl Jenny Taylor G/Dau 10 School Noted events in her life were: * She worked as a Silk Weaver on 7 Apr 1861 in Moss Lane, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. * She worked as a Charwoman on 2 Apr 1871 in Park Lane, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. * She worked as a Charwoman on 31 Mar 1901 in 115 Wennington Road, Southport, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Jenny married Thomas Taylor December Quarter 1866 in Ormskirk Registration District, Lancashire. Thomas was born about 1841 in North Meols, Lancashire, England and died before 1901. Noted events in his life were: * He worked as an Agricultural Labourer on 7 Apr 1861 in High Park, North Meols, Lancashire, England. * He worked as an Agricultural Labourer on 2 Apr 1871 in Park Lane, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. * He worked as an Agricultural Labourer on 3 Apr 1881 in Green Lane Farm House, North Meols, Lancashire, England. * He worked as a Masons Labourer General on 5 Apr 1891 in 47 Wennington Road, Southport, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Children from this marriage were: + 65 F i. Alice Taylor was born about 1867 in North Meols, Lancashire, England. Alice married John Barton (b. Abt 1866) March Quarter 1889 in Ormskirk Registration District, Lancashire. + 66 M ii. Thomas Spencer Taylor was born about 1872 in North Meols, Lancashire, England. Thomas married Mary Elizabeth Wilson (b. Abt 1871) September Quarter 1894 in Ormskirk Registration District, Lancashire. 67 F iii. Jenny Ellen Taylor(25) was born about 1879 in North Meols, Lancashire, England, died in 1898 in Southport, North Meols, Lancashire, England about age 19, and was buried on 15 Feb 1898 in St Cuthberts Grave. 68 F iv. Rachael Taylor was born about 1881 in North Meols, Lancashire, England. Another name for Rachael was Rachel. Noted events in her life were: * She worked as a Laundress on 31 Mar 1901 in 115 Wennington Road, Southport, North Meols, Lancashire, England. 69 F v. Leah Taylor was born in 1882 in Southport, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Noted events in her life were: * She worked as a Domestic Servant on 31 Mar 1901 in 115 Wennington Road, Southport, North Meols, Lancashire, England. 70 F vi. Emily Taylor was born in 1885 in Southport, North Meols, Lancashire, England, died in 1909 in Southport, North Meols, Lancashire, England at age 24, and was buried on 23 Nov 1909 in St Cuthberts Grave. Noted events in her life were: * She worked as a Laundress on 31 Mar 1901 in 115 Wennington Road, Southport, North Meols, Lancashire, England. 71 F vii. Bertha Taylor(25) was born in 1887 in Southport, North Meols, Lancashire, England, died in 1906 in Southport, North Meols, Lancashire, England at age 19, and was buried on 11 Nov 1906 in St Cuthberts Grave. Noted events in her life were: * She worked as a Nurse Girl on 31 Mar 1901 in 115 High Park Road, High Park, Southport, North Meols, Lancashire, England. 27. Samuel Spencer was born about 1849 in North Meols, Lancashire, England. General Notes: From North Meols Census 2nd April 1871, District 13, Page 26, Schedule no. 145 Hydropathic Hospital, Southport, North Meols Samuel Spencer Head Mar 22 General Attendant born North Meols Cecilia Spencer Wife Mar 22 Domestic etc. NB All others on this census entry (apart from two servants) are patients at the Hospital. Noted events in his life were: * He worked as a Farm Servant on 7 Apr 1861 in Moss Lane, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. * He worked as a General Attendant on 2 Apr 1871 in Hydropathic Hospital, Southport, North Meols, Lancashire. Samuel married Cicely Rymer March Quarter 1871 in Ormskirk Registration District, Lancashire. Cicely was born about 1849 in Banks, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Another name for Cicely was Cecilia. Noted events in her life were: * She worked as a Domestic on 2 Apr 1871 in Hydropathic Hospital, Southport, North Meols, Lancashire. 28. John Spencer was born about 1853 in North Meols, Lancashire, England. General Notes: From North Meols Census 3rd April 1881, District 34, Page 18, Schedule no. 89 105 Meols Cop Road John Spencer Head Mar 28 Plasterer born Southport Ann Spencer Wife Mar 27 Hawker Thomas Spencer Son 6 Jenny Spencer Dau 1 From North Meols Census 5th April 1891, District 8, Page 18, Schedule no. 97 Poulton Road John Spencer Head M 38 Plasterer born Southport Ann Spencer Wife M 37 Thomas Spencer Son S 15 Scholar Jenny Spencer Dau 11 Scholar John Spencer Son 8 Scholar Ellen Spencer Dau 6 Scholar James Spencer Son 3 Edgar Spencer Son 1 Noted events in his life were: * He worked as a Plasterer on 2 Apr 1871 in Moss Lane, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. * He worked as a Plasterer on 3 Apr 1881 in 105 Meols Cop Road, Southport, North Meols, Lancashire. * He worked as a Plasterer on 5 Apr 1891 in 127 Poulton Road, Southport, North Meols, Lancashire. John married Ann. Ann was born about 1854 in Southport, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Noted events in her life were: * She worked as a Hawker on 3 Apr 1881 in 105 Meols Cop Road, Southport, North Meols, Lancashire. Children from this marriage were: + 72 M i. Thomas Spencer was born about 1875 in Southport, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Thomas married Hannah Jackson (b. Abt 1877) June Quarter 1900 in Ormskirk Registration District, Lancashire. 73 F ii. Jenny Spencer was born about 1880 in Southport, North Meols, Lancashire, England. 74 M iii. John Spencer was born about 1883 in Southport, North Meols, Lancashire, England. 75 F iv. Ellen Spencer was born about 1885 in Southport, North Meols, Lancashire, England. 76 M v. James Spencer was born about 1888 in Southport, North Meols, Lancashire, England. 77 M vi. Edgar Spencer was born about 1890 in Southport, North Meols, Lancashire, England. 33. Samuel Wright was born on 31 Oct 1849 in Marshside, North Meols, Lancashire, England, died on 27 Sep 1891 at age 41, and was buried in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. General Notes: From North Meols Census 3rd April 1881, District 5, Page 26, Schedule no. 126 Shellfield Road, Marshside Samuel Wright Head Mar 31 Fisherman born North Meols Margaret Wright Wife Mar 33 Shrimp Picker William Wright Son 5 Scholar Ann Wright Dau 2 From North Meols Census 5th April 1891, District 5, Pages 18 & 19, Schedule no. 114 36a Shellfield Road, Marshside Samuel Wright Head M 42 Fisherman born North Meols Margaret Wright Wife M 44 William Wright Son 15 Fisherman Ann Wright Dau 12 Ellen Wright Dau 9 Betty Wright Dau 7 Isabella Wright Dau 5 Margaret Wright Dau 3 NB Samuel dies in September 1891 (see below). In Loving Memory of Samuel Wright, who died September 27th 1891, aged 43 years. Also of Margaret, the beloved wife of the above, who died January 23rd 1924, aged 76 years. "Her end was peace." Also of Thomas, loving husband of Ann Wright, died January 21st 1954, aged 76 years. Always remembered. Also of Ann Wright, beloved wife of the above who died May 22nd 1955, aged 76 years. Reunited. NB Samuel & Margaret didn't have a son Thomas, so their daughter Ann must have married another Wright. Noted events in his life were: * He worked as a Fisherman on 3 Apr 1881 in Shellfield Road, Marshside, North Meols, Lancashire, England. * He worked as a Fisherman on 5 Apr 1891 in 36a Shellfield Road, Marshside, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Samuel married Margaret Johnson June Quarter 1874 in Ormskirk Registration District, Lancashire. Margaret was born about 1847 in North Meols, Lancashire, England, died on 23 Jan 1924 about age 77, and was buried in St Cuthbert, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Noted events in her life were: * She worked as a Shrimp Picker on 3 Apr 1881 in Shellfield Road, Marshside, North Meols, Lancashire, England. * Address -: Head of household, 31 Mar 1901, 36a Shellfield Road, Marshside, Southport, Lancashire, England. Children from this marriage were: 78 M i. William Wright was born about 1875 in North Meols, Lancashire, England. Noted events in his life were: * He worked as a Fisherman on 5 Apr 1891 in 36a Shellfield Road, Marshside, North Meols, Lancashire, England. * He worked as a Police Man on 31 Mar 1901 in 36a Shellfield Road, Marshside, Southport, Lancashire, England. + 79 F ii. Ann Wright was born about 1878 in North Meols, Lancashire, England. Ann married Thomas Wright. 80 F iii. Ellen Wright was born about 1881 in North Meols, Lancashire, England. 81 F iv. Betty Wright was born about 1883 in North Meols, Lancashire, England. Noted events in her life were: * She worked as a General Servant on 31 Mar 1901 in 36a Shellfield Road, Marshside, Southport, Lancashire, England. 82 F v. Isabella Wright was born about 1885 in North Meols, Lancashire, England. Noted events in her life were: * She worked as a Charwoman on 31 Mar 1901 in 36a Shellfield Road, Marshside, Southport, Lancashire, England. 83 F vi. Margaret Wright was born about 1887 in North Meols, Lancashire, England. 84 M vii. Samuel Wright was born in 1892 in North Meols, Lancashire, England. 35. James Spencer was born about 1855 in North Meols, Lancashire, England. General Notes: From North Meols Census 5th April 1891, Dsitrict 4, Page 28, Schedule no. 186 24 Mill Lane, Churchtown James Spencer Head M 35 Private Drain Flusher born North Meols Esther Spencer Wife M 27 Laundress Ellen Spencer Dau 7 Scholar Betty Spencer Dau 6 Scholar Samuel Spencer Son 5 Scholar Mary Spencer Dau 1 Scholar Isabella Spencer Dau 3 John Spencer Son 3 months From Southport Census 31st March 1901, District 4, Page 13, Schedule no. 102 Moss Lane James Spencer Head M 45 Labourer, Scavenger, Corporation Worker born Southport Esther Spencer Wife M 37 Laundress Worker at Home Ellen Spencer Dau S 17 Laundress Worker at Home Betty Spencer Dau S 16 Laundress Worker at Home Samuel Spencer Son S 15 Joiners Apprentice Worker Isabella Spencer Dau 13 Laundress Worker at Home Mary Spencer Dau 11 John Spencer Son 10 Thomas Spencer Son 8 Richard Spencer Son 3 Noted events in his life were: * He worked as a Whitesmith on 2 Apr 1871 in Roe Lane, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. * He worked as a Farm Labourer on 3 Apr 1881 in Rectory Lane, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. * He worked as a Private Drain Flusher on 5 Apr 1891 in 24 Mill Lane, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. * He worked as a Labourer, Scavenger for Corporation on 31 Mar 1901 in Moss Lane, Churchtown, Southport, Lancashire, England. James married Esther Gaskell March Quarter 1882 in Ormskirk Registration District, Lancashire. Esther was born about 1862 in Southport, North Meols, Lancashire, England. Noted events in her life were: * She worked as a Laundress on 5 Apr 1891 in 24 Mill Lane, Churchtown, North Meols, Lancashire, England. * She worked as a Laundress on 31 Mar 1901 in Moss Lane, Churchtown, Southport, Lancashire, England. Children from this marriage were: 85 F i. Ellen Spencer was born about 1883 in North Meols, Lancashire, England. Noted events in her life were: * She worked as a Laundress on 31 Mar 1901 in Moss Lane, Churchtown, Southport, Lancashire, England. 86 F ii. Betty Spencer was born about 1884 in North Meols, Lancashire, England. Noted events in her life were: * She worked as a Laundress on 31 Mar 1901 in Moss Lane, Churchtown, Southport, Lancashire, England. 87 M iii. Samuel Spencer was born about 1885 in North Meols, Lancashire, England. Noted events in his life were: * He worked as a Joiners Apprentice on 31 Mar 1901 in Moss Lane, Churchtown, Southport, Lancashire, England. 88 F iv. Isabella Spencer was born about 1887 in North Meols, Lancashire, England. Noted events in her life were: * She worked as a Laundress on 31 Mar 1901 in Moss Lane, Churchtown, Southport, Lancashire, England. 89 F v. Mary Spencer was born about 1889 in North Meols, Lancashire, England. 90 M vi. John Spencer was born about 1891 in North Meols, Lancashire, England. 91 M vii. Thomas Spencer was born about 1892 in North Meols, Lancashire, England. 92 M |
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| Dotty |
Wow...Steve I am gobsmacked....Thank you for this information. I wondered about the James' age on the 1841 census and the PR which showed he was baptised in 1771 not 1781 as I expected. How did you get all this information and from where. You show me up... I haven't read though everything yet...it's just amazing. I'll be in touch again, from Grateful from Churchtown... 
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| Bez |
Correct me if I'm wrong, Steve, but is this from the Joyce Otterstrom site?
At least she does put in corrections if you can prove her to be wrong. It's a good starting point for everyone researching North Meols families if you just bear in mind that she makes mistakes, just like the rest of us. Hope you do manage to find a photo of the grave, but not everyone got a headstone, unfortunately. I think it's really great of you to put the info on the forum for everyone to read. Well done. |
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| baxtersp |
Hello Bez
Yes, all of the early stuff is from Joyce's "Park" database. The bits I've put on usually start from the 1841 Census onwards. I send her bits and pieces myself every now and again, as well as the odd gravestone photo. |
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| Bobbie1545 |
Hi everyone:
I enjoyed reading your postings of James Spencer et al. I am part of this line - from Richard Spencer, son of William Spencer and Isabell Bradshaw. A few more tidbits for you: the name of Richard Spencer's third wife was Elizabeth Breese, born 1828. Also, Richard's younger brother Thomas, (I think my great grandfather was named for him) was part of the Eliza Fernley lifeboat crew. He died a few days later and left a widow and young son. The widow also died a few months later, leaving the son an orphan. I have James Spencer's parents as Richard Spencer b1743 and Mary Critchley. This Richard's parents were James b. 1706 and Ann, no surname given. This James was born toWilliam Spencer and Ma(ry) Rymer in 1680. Cheers, Bobbie PS. In the 1881 census, there is a 12 year old servant, Jonathan Williams living with Richard and Emma. This Jonathan, who was known as Jack, emigrated to Vancouver and ended up living with my grandparents who emigrated sometime after he did. My grandmother was Isabella Spencer, daughter of Thomas William, son of Richard. I have always wondered what the connection to the family was. Do you have any knowledge of Jonathan (Jack) Williams. Do you think he may have been Emma's son? According to her marriage certificate, she was a spinster. |
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| Jane |
Have you found him in 1871? If you need help email or PM me (private message) and I shall see what I can find. He may just be with his parents or as you suspect mother.
Other than that the only way is to send for his birth certificate or search for a baptism. |
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| Jeremy |
SpencersVery interesting to read this - Bobble alerted me to it.James Spencer and Margaret Barton were my great-great-great-great grandparents. They had William (who married Isabella Bradshaw). One of William and Isabella Spencer's children was Thomas. Thomas was born in Hawside and in the 1881 census lived at 32 Hall St. and was aged 41 with wife (Jane Alice) aged 39 and William aged 6. At time of death, lived 53 Hall St, Southport. Died on 10/12/1886 as a member of the Eliza Fearnley lifeboat crew that perished trying to save the Mexico. Newspaper report: "A volunteer member of the crew, left a widow and one son (aged 11). He was the owner of some boats and some property, and his widow was sufficiently provided for. She survived him by but a few weeks, as she died in March 1887." See book on the Southport Lifeboat Disaster and also items in Botanic Gardens Musem in Churchtown. Seehttp://www.mightyseas.co.uk/articles/inquiry_report.htm (and associated pages). See also Lifeboat memorial in Duke st Cemetery. After the death of her husband, William, Isabella moved to 10 Hope St. (where my grandmother and her brothers and sisters were brought up). She is buried in Duke St Cemetery. To locate her grave start facing that of James Spencer and Susannah (nee Wright)'s grave (no. 5615 - purchased by Susannah Spencer of 1 Hope St on 2/10/1907 for James Spencer, fishmonger - date of purchase was customarily date of death) move forward to the next row of graves then go three to the left to find Thomas Spencer and Jane (5738). Go back to James and Susannah's grave then go straight forward three rows and here is Elizabeth Spencer (5733). John William Spencer and his wife Emma Aspinall in Section 23 grave number 346. Thomas' son, William, was aged 11 at the time of his father's death, mother died a few days later and he was fostered. Received a payment of £28 from the lifeboat disaster fund on 23 May 1889. Apprentice joiner until age 21. In 1901 census he is given as living at 8 Cypress Road, Southport, aged 26 and married to Annie (age 25), no children at this stage. Joiner on own account. I have no further details but note that under Ormskirk (the reg district for Southport), a William Spencer married an Annie Grady. Maybe this is he? Another son of William and Isabella Spencer was Richard, from whom Bobbie is descended. A further son was James Spencer who was my great-great-grandfather and about who I can clearly remember my grandmother talking. He was married to Susannah Wright. His location is given in various censuses as follows; 1851 25 m. Susannah, Isabella 6mth, Hawes Side La 1861 35 b North Meols. Hawes Side, N Meols. Fisherman. 1871 1 Hope St, fisherman 1881 1 Hope St 1901 1 Hope St He was a fishmonger (on own account). Had own fishmonger's shop & owned 2 boats (the Morning Star & a second one which foundered beyond pier at Southport on a sandbank called Spencers Brow). I understand he built the Jam Chapel (Church Street Methodist, and then later St. Mark's Methodist, now a doctor's surgery. See picture at: http://www.merseydoctors.org.uk/stmarks/practice/index.htm) as well as 5 houses and shops for his children in Ashley Road. See sign Spencers Place high on wall above shops in Ashley Rd (parallel to Hope St). After James' death, Susannah moved to 10 Hope St. James & Susannah are buried together with William (pre-deceased son) in Duke St Cemetery, Southport, near Thomas & Jane, Grave 5615 Section R. One of their six children was Annie Spencer who married John Cook Yates and they had seven children, one of whom was my grandmother. If any-one wishes further information about the descendants of James and Susannah Spencer, please email me: jeremy.higham @virgin.net Jeremy John Spencer Higham PS My brother and I, each of our sons and other relatives have Spencer in their name, named after James Spencer (a 'good man who built the jam Chapel' according to my grandmother). |
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| Jane |
I have a feeling Bez & Dotty will be interested in this. They are both busy today but will probably read and reply tomorrow | ||
| Bez |
Quite right in your observations there, Jane.
The NMFHS went on a visit to the Jam Chapel while it was still a church and they told us that the bulk of the money to build it came from Sir William Pickles Hartley, with a contribution from James Hall, who was also a jam manufacturer - hence the name. William Hartley laid the memorial stones in 1890 (with Mrs Pilkington, Mrs Unwin and Mr Charles Scarisbrick), the congregation having to worship in the Cambridge Hall following a major fire at their London Street Church. The new Primitive Methodist Hall and Sunday School in Derby Road were opened on September 2nd 1891 by Mrs Hartley and the sermon was preached by Rev. A T Guttery. (Bland, Annals of Southport). William Hartley believed in people helping themselves - not having it all on a plate, so a significant amount of money was raised by the congregation themselves, conditions imposed routinely by Hartley for many of his building projects. Christiana Hartley later provided new gates for the Chapel and both she, and her father before her, had their funeral services at the Jam Chapel before interrment at Trawden (Colne). According to my grandmother, her father and his brothers had helped to build several of the Methodist Chapels in the North Meols area, and by that I understood her to mean that they provided physical labour and literally built them (having no money to spare) and this does seem to have featured in church building in the past when you look at how quickly some of them seem to have been put up. James Spencer may have contributed money or labour, or maybe both. I would be interested to hear if you find any records which list his involvement. |
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| Jeremy |
I can't add anything to this other than to say that my grandmother also told me the chapel was financed by Hartleys (as you indicate), that James Spencer was a lay preacher in the methodist church, that he built the chapel (not sure whether through contributing labour, funds or both) and that he also built (again I am not sure what 'built' this means) the 5 houses in Ashley Street called Spencer's Place.
I also know, from Bobbie, that his brother Richard (b.1833) was one of the founders of Zion Methodist church (see Jubilee booklet in 1925 for details). Jeremy |
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| Bez |
Hi Jeremy - I'd be inclined to think that he physically helped to build it - that is what they seemed to do, although he obviously did have money as he had his own shop and 2 boats. It was nice that he was also a lay preacher there.
Have you looked at the Probate Calendars at your local Record Office? Even if he left no will I would imagine that a Grant of Probate would be required to transfer the property to his legal heir. Also there were the properties in Ashley Street if not already transferred to his children. Sounds like a man of some substance even if not a major benefactor of the Jam Chapel. Was there an obituary published when he died? Interesting the link with Zion Methodist - my 4 x gr grandparents, John and Ellen Hooton were founder members of Churchtown Independent Chapel, now the URC on Botanic Road, and as I said previously, my gr grandfather and his brothers helped to build some of the local Methodist churches, but I don't know which ones. I will try and remember to look for the Spencer sign in Ashley Street - it's really interesting to know how things got named, also Spencers Brow. |
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| Bobbie1545 |
Hello:
As well as being connected on the Spencer line, I am also connected to the Hooton line, through John and Ellen Hooton (m. 10.22.1780), down to James and Jenny nee Sutton (m. 4.30.1805) to Hannah Hooton (b. 1810) who married Thomas Halsall in 1829. Their daughter, Hannah Halsall b. 1831 married John Mawdesley, grandson of the Rev. John. This Hannah was my 2xgrandmother. I probably should put this on the other site, but I thought you might be interested to see the Spencer - Hooton connection here. It was Richard, my 3xgrandfather who was one of the founders of the Zionist Church. Cheers, Bobbie |
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| Bez |
Hi Bobbie - you and I are related then, but you are a closer relation to my cousin Ron Hooton of New Zealand as he is also a descendant of James and Jenny (Sutton). He wrote a book about the Hootons of North Meols which is in the NMFHS library and can be borrowed by UK members.
There will also be a new book published soon on the history of the URC to mark the bicentenary of the building of the church - I have been helping the author with some family details and if you have any information at all on James Hooton please pm me as he is one of the people we have been trying to verify details for. |
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| HodgePodge |
I have a link to this family through James Spencer and Isabella Bradshaw and their son, Henry.
It seems Henry had an illegitimate daughter with Elizabeth Duckworth in 1864, 2 years before the couple married (though I haven't confirmed this with certificates, the child was called Elizabeth Spencer Duckworth). Further children sfter marriage were William 1866, Isabella 1868 and Elizabeth 1871. Elizabeth Duckworth was daughter of Thomas Duckworth and Margaret Peet or Rimmer and her sister, Isabella Duckworth, lived with the Spencers in 1871. Elizabeth died in 1873, and later that year, Henry Spencer married Jane Slater (though carrying her previous husband's name of Jackson). Her maiden name was Jane Slater, born in Ireland who came to North Meols and married 1) Peter Ball. 2) Robert Jackson 3) Henry Spencer... I'm assuming she buried each one before moving onto the next! In 1881 Jane Slater/Spencer is cited as born Ireland, and in 1891 and 1901 Henry's wife, Jane is said to be born Liverpool. This could mean this is a different Jane, but with a similar age, no death found for a Jane Spencer, and no marriage record of Henry Spencer to a Jane after 1881, I suspect it's the same woman who has lied about her birthplace. Henry had no known children with Jane Slater. Henry and Elizabeth's son, William, married Sarah Elizabeth Hulm. I have family bible entries for the Spencer-Hulm marriage and children of William and Sarah Elizabeth, who were cousins to my Grandmother, Elizabeth Bury Hulm. 1871: Henry Spencer was mate on a fishing boat, with his brother, Thomas, as master. The boat was called "Isabella"... so I suspect it was named after their mother. |
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| Dotty |
I am a klutz...I cannot believe I have missed this thread from baxtersp onwards...and it is a mine of information!I am going to go through everything and print it out for my records and put it in order for my family. Thank you all for this wonderful information... Deliriously Dotty 
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| BrianG |
Re: I am a klutz...
makes two of us Dotty 
I've been doing so much on this mob recently - could have saved quite a bit of time & effort if I'd spotted this thread, plus I've missed one line completely - that of William Spencer & Isabella Bradshaw 
They're not actually my blood relations this far back, but there's a lot of intermarrying with my lot, starting with William's siblings Samuel, Richard and Thomas 
I think I'd better work carefully through Steve's posting Brian |
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| Dotty |
Not just me then...Thank goodness it's not just me...I too could have saved myself a lot of time and effort.Dotty 
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| BrianG |
One thing is puzzling me (only one??)
In his reply to Steve's posting Jeremy says
I have William & Isabella on the 1871 Census living at 53 Kensington St (as does Steve); but on the 1881 Census, at the same address William is living with a second wife, Mary Ann, who is about 20 years his junior. I think William died a few months later in 1881; Isabella died in 1871(?) Or have I got the wrong end of a very big stick? I don't think I'm going to spend much more time on William & Isabella's line as I can't get them related to me, (unless I come across another marriage of course  )
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| Jeremy |
My mistake - I have checked and it was Susannah Spencer (nee Wright b. c1826) who moved to 10 Hope St on the death of her husband (James Spencer b. 1826).
Jeremy |
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| Dotty |
UpdatesThanks for the update. I am so sorry I couldn't meet with Bobbie when she came over. It would have been good to put a face to the name...Dotty
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