THOMAS HOWARD, B; 1811

unsworth · THOMAS HOWARD, B; 1811

Looking for anyone with a connection to Thomas Howard sp; Jane b; 1823 both of northmeols. they had a daughter ellen b; 1843. wnting to know if this is the jane howard who married a william Rimmer abt. 1872

SeaCopRimmer

Do you mean Jane Howard or Ellen Howard? And do you have a birth date for William? Long shot but it might help

unsworth

This is the line I'm trying to verify. I'm hoping to find someone who can help. have BMD certs for John Rimmer and B for Mary Ellen Johnson. Have B cert for William Rimmer (1849). trying to verify his marriage. also her parents.

Ahnentafel Chart for JOHN RIMMER
First Generation

1. JOHN RIMMER was born in 1874 in SOUTHPORT, LANCASHIRE, ENGLAND.

JOHN married MARY ELLEN JOHNSON daughter of STEPHEN JOHNSON and ELIZABETH RIMMER on 30 Jun 1894 in SOUTHPORT, LANCASHIRE, ENGLAND. MARY was born in 1873 in Southport, Lancashire, Eng. .

Second Generation

2. WILLIAM RIMMER was born in 1849 in Down Holland, nr Halsall, LANC'S ENG.. He was christened on 21 Jul 1849 in Halsall, Lanc's Engl. He married ELLEN HOWARD in 1872 in Southport, Lancashire, Eng. .

3. ELLEN HOWARD was born in 1843 in Northmeols, Lanc's. England.

Third Generation

4. WILLIAM RIMMER was born in 1814 in Northmeols, Ormskirk, Lancs Eng.. He was christened on 19 Jun 1814 in Northmeols, Ormskirk, Lancs Eng.. He married JANE THRELFALL on 22 Apr 1844 in St Nicholas, Liverpool, Lancs,eng.

5. JANE THRELFALL was born on 30 Nov 1806 in halsall, lancs, eng. She was christened on 3 Dec 1806 in St mary's, garstang, lancs, eng.

6. THOMAS HOWARD was born in 1811 in Northmeols, Lanc's. England. He married JANE HOWARD in 1837 in Northmeols, Lanc's. England.

7. JANE HOWARD was born in 1823 in Northmeols, Lanc's. England.

Fourth Generation

8. EDWARD RYMER was born in 1784 in Formby, Lancs, England. He was christened on 10 Oct 1785 in Formby, Lancs, England. He married ELLEN LUNT on 30 May 1808 in Northmeols, Southport, Lanc's Eng..

9. ELLEN LUNT was christened on 16 Aug 1789 in northmeols, southport, lancs Eng.

10. WILLIAM THRELFALL .WILLIAM married ELIZABETH WALTON on 17 May 1795 in Garstang, Lancs, Eng.

11. ELIZABETH WALTON .

Jane

Unsworth if you go and look at the society's web page you will see all the publications we sell. One is Howard one name - also lots of Rimmer things.

I'm not sure if you are a member but you would get a lot of help that way. All members have their interest names published in our magazine and there is also a help wanted page. Someone just may spot a connection.

I say this because not everyone has the internet or a computer. Just a way for more people to see your interest names

Yvonne

There are three Thomas Howard's baptised c1811 in North Meols.

1. 11 Feb 1810 s/o John & Jenny Crossens
2. 5 Aug 1810 s/o Thomas & Margaret, Crossens
3. 31 May 1812 s/o William & Ann

Also one burial 8 Dec 1813 Thomas Howard Bs , 1
Think this is probably No. 3 as other children of a William & Ann have Bs, wea. after them.

Yvonne

Bs, wea I assume you mean Dotty

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According to the Register
Bs. is Banks
wea is weaver.

Dotty · Ohhh...

Thank you, Yvonne. Silly me...

Jane · Re: Unsworth

unsworth

I'm not a member of the society but will be as soon as I come to the UK

Dotty · Doh...

My mistake folks, sorry...

SeaCopRimmer

Hi Unsworth - if you are following the same line as my grandfather's predecessors either you have gone astray or at least six other people have! I have this line back to Edward Rimmer m Ellen Lunt 30.05.1808 which has been authenticated by several people and it doesn't match with what you have listed here!

unsworth

jane I have certs for 1st and 2nd gen listed. and I have located the cert for William and Ellen Ormskirk 1872. when it comes to william and Jane Threlfall I've traced them in the censuses, It looks as though William was Janes 2nd Marriage as she has 2 children with las name of Threllfall on 1881 census. If you want you can email me at northmeols@pyatt.net and I can send you a gedcom with census and certs listed. but to be honest with you I'm still verifying the early 1800's of my Rimmers. I feel it is important to have proof of what I believe to be my line. I am always open to correction though.

SeaCopRimmer

It looks as though William was Janes 2nd Marriage as she has 2 children with las name of Threllfall on 1881 census

I have William marrying a Jane Aughton (Threlfall was, I assume, her 1st husband's surname); They married in Sept. Qtr 1846 (Ormskirk District).
1841 Census (Barton, Downholland),Jane Threlfall (aged 35) Farmer, with four children Thomas (14) Jane (12) Alice (6) and Charlotte (3); William Rimmer (aged 25) is listed as a Servant;
1851 Census (Plex Lane, Halsall), William (40) is Head and a Farmer of 40 Acres born Lancashire, Meols, Jane (46) Farmer's Wife, born Halsall. there are three Rimmer children John (6), James (4) and William (1) and three Threlfalls, Alice (16), Charlotte (14) and grand-daughter Elizabeth (2);
1861 Danglets Lane, North Meols: William (47) Fisherman, born North Meols; Jane (56), born North Meols (?), with John (16), James (14) and William (11) and Elizabeth Threlfall (12) grand-daughter and Alice Threlfall (25) and Charlotte Threlfall (23) Step daughters.

Jane

unsworth

I put Threlfall in as janes maiden name as it was the only one I could find at the time. It looks as though you have her birth name. thanks for the info I'll add it to my working info file. I'll go on line as soon as I get my new debit card. had to get it replaced as mine had been compromised by a company I ordered from.

SeaCopRimmer

I know from my Nixon's how easy it is to get side-tracked! Credit card fraud is rampant in UK - hopefully we can chat for about a week in October

THOMAS HOWARD, B; 1811

Ohhh...

Re: Unsworth

Doh...