Edgar Family and Ashcroft families

unsworth · Joined: 07 Sep 2006 Posts: 203

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
Name: Ellen Edgar
Estimated birth year: abt 1844
Year of Registration: 1912
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 68
DISTRICT: Blackburn
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8e
Page: 378

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
Name Year of Registration Quarter of Registration Spouse's Surname DISTRICT County
Margaret Aspinwall 1864 Oct-Nov-Dec Ormskirk Lancashire
Robert Edgar 1864 Oct-Nov-Dec Ormskirk Lancashire
Ellen Leadbetter 1864 Oct-Nov-Dec Ormskirk Lancashire
James Sumner 1864 Oct-Nov-Dec Ormskirk Lancashire

Bez · Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 1:31 am Post subject:

St Cuthbert's Road is alongside St Cuthbert's Church (where Churchtown School is). I think you can say that it was his home address and the Workhouse was elsewhere.

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Bez · Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 1:57 am Post subject:

There is a possibility that this might refer to the first Infirmary on Virginia Street.

Many hospitals started life as workhouses or the infirmaries to workhouses (as is the case with Hope Hospital in Manchester).

http://64.233.183.104/search?q=ca...ct=clnk&cd=9&client=opera

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bobg · Joined: 12 Apr 2007 Posts: 92 Location: Canada

In Seed's 1914-15 Directory W Edgar, Motor Builder is listed as living at 12 St Cuthbert Rd. It only shows the head of the household, no others at the same address.

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unsworth · Joined: 07 Sep 2006 Posts: 203

You know Jane that address sounds familiar. could it be the old school house? you know that building has been many things since it was erected and it would not surprise me to find out it had been used for a church poor house.

SeaCopRimmer · Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 12:56 pm Post subject:

It was a school up until 1889 when the 'new' school was built and known as St Cuthbert's Church of England School - I can't imagine that it would have the facilities to be a workhouse? I think No. 12 was one of the old Alms Houses (now pensioners' cottages) - will check next time I'm down there.

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kay edgar · Joined: 23 Sep 2007 Posts: 13 Location: australia

Thanks Jane for the street lookup offer. I am in no great hurry, the search has been taking a long time and a bit longer won't make any difference. I am finding the geneaolgy community a group of very helpful people. Very Happy

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Bez · Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 2:20 pm Post subject:

The original school building (now the Conservative Club) would logically be number 1 St Cuthbert's Road. As SeaCop says, number 12 would most likely have been where the old folks bungalows are now.

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kay edgar · Joined: 23 Sep 2007 Posts: 13 Location: australia

Hi Bev as I live in Australia and not familiar with the area, could you please explain to me what you have found. I have never left Perth, so only go on any information on the telly or the net. I get a bit envious when my husband watches the antique road show and we see some of your country, and the Time Team, is there a map I can download and follow or can one be emailed to me. Question

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Bez · Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 3:09 pm Post subject:

There are old maps available on line but Google do a fairly up to date aerial photo thing called Google Earth which will give you current locations of things.

If you try this you need to home in on St Cuthbert's church (don't know the post code, unfortunately) and St Cuthbert's Road runs alongside the church with the former school on the opposite corner. That is to say, the church is on one corner and the former school is on the other side of the road.

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kay edgar · Joined: 23 Sep 2007 Posts: 13 Location: australia

Hi Bez, I have just received an email in reponse to one I sent to the Library, and received a reply from the History Unit of the Atkinson Library, A Matthew Tink has said that St. Cuthberts Road still exists but was called at one time School Road, but he can't find French Street. I have seen French street on a Map, but will have to go back through my records and try and find it. It was close to a port,from memory. The union workhouse still causing grief. He says that the only one was at Ormskirk. It seems that peter from the workhouse website maybe correct in saying that southport workhouse records were destroyed by fire. My request as certainly become a talking point. The Vulcan factory was based very near to St. Cuthberts Road, at Crossens. Please keep up the good work all the members who are following this request. Very Happy

Kay

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unsworth · Joined: 07 Sep 2006 Posts: 203

take a gander at this site it will give you a rough idea about churchtown [northmeols of old]

http://www.northmeols.merseyside.org/trail/index.htm

kay edgar · Joined: 23 Sep 2007 Posts: 13 Location: australia

Thank you to the sender unsworth for the web page. Is it possible that Sidney Edgar and maybe William Edgar are buried in St cuthberts Church yard, or is there another cemetary nearby. William edgar was a coach builder, on his marriage certificate, then on the death certificate of Sidney Edgar he is a Motor Car Builder. Maybe William worked at the Coachhouse before he went into the car industry. The history of this town is amazing. I just wish I could visit one day. Very Happy

Kay

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