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ray green



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
it certainly is interesting, but what do they mean? Are the numbers ages and if so why would a minor be mentioned in connection with a lease? Sometimes out of boredom I look at my "hot connections" on Genes R (they are surely breaching the trade descriptions act) and I get hundreds for Hamlet Cropper. Is it because it is such a great name that everybody wants him on their tree or did he go jiggy with all the girls in North Meols?
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Yvonne



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ray,
I think with most people who have Croppers on their trees, everyone gets back to Hamlet Cropper and can not get any further with him, despite it being an unusual name. Well that seems to be my impression anyway. Don't think he was the Casanova of North Meols

I think, regarding the leases, that the date of the lease is how old the people are, and once all three are dead then the lease ceases. But I may be wrong, I am sure someone will correct me if I am as I haven't had any thing to do with leases before now.

Yvonne
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
ray green wrote:
it certainly is interesting, but what do they mean? Are the numbers ages and if so why would a minor be mentioned in connection with a lease?


Leases for lives were the usual form before years were introduced.  It was common to put children down as some of the lives as it was hoped that they would live for a very long time.  When a person named on a lease died a new name could usually be added with the agreement of the landowner (for a fee, often known as a "fine").  The only drawback of this form of lease was that the term of the lease was unknown.  This was not a problem in earlier times, but later on the landowners wanted to know how long the land was going to be tied up for (especially if they had some project in mind) so they started to refuse to add names to the lease and began to issue leases for a fixed number of years instead.




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