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gill willis



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 7:43 pm    Post subject: gravestone Reply with quote

hi steve thanks for the reply
i did go to st cuthberts last sunday but looking for howard,s there is like looking for a needle in a haystack
what are the earliest dates you have come across on the headstones there?
my howard tree goes back to 1500 and they all have some connection to st cuthberts at some point.
kind regards gill



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Gill

I've only found one gravestone in St Cuthbert's from the 1600's so far, nothing earlier.



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was entered in the wrong section - so I moved it for Bob



Hello Steve,

Do you have a photograph of the grave of Robert Gregson,born 1796, possible date for his death Sep qtr 1856 or Jun qtr 1857.   I am particularly interested in knowing if his wife is named on the gravestone.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Bob

I'm afraid not, I haven't come across their gravestone yet.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Steve

Is there any trace of a stone for Thomas & Margery Halsall? The date would be post 1861 as there is no trace of them after that census (apart from a couple of possible death records for Thomas) By 1871 two of their children (10 & 11 years old) are in hospital, another (13) working as a servant

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Brian

No luck with a gravestone for Thomas and Margery I'm afraid.  I couldn't find them after 1861 either.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for looking Steve. So it's not just me who can't find them
They are my greatx2 grandparents; the 13 year old is my great grandmother Ellen
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Brian

It was Ellen that married Nathan Jackson wasn't it?  Nathan's my 4th cousin 4 times removed at the minute, his father Henry my 3rd cousin 5 times removed and his mother Mary my 4th cousin 6 times removed.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

baxtersp wrote:

It was Ellen that married Nathan Jackson wasn't it?  Nathan's my 4th cousin 4 times removed at the minute, his father Henry my 3rd cousin 5 times removed and his mother Mary my 4th cousin 6 times removed.
That's right Nathan & Ellen are my great grandparents. Nathan who was found floating off Southport pier. From the inquest seems he may have hit the bottle in the weeks preceding.
Are they buried in St C's by any chance?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No luck I'm afraid Brian, they could there and I haven't found them or they could be buried elsewhere in Southport.  

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a Nathan Jackson, husband of Ellen, buried in St Cuthbert's.  He died on the 12th July 1908 aged 52 years and was buried on the 15th.  The address given was High Park Road and the officiating minister was George Z Edwards, Vicar of Crossens.

His wife Ellen died on 7th Dec 1916 and was buried on the 12th, aged 59 years, by the Rector of St Cuthbert's R B Blakeney.  Her address at the time of death was 3 Bright Street.

St Cuthbert's do actually have a location for their grave and I could email their plan with the location to you if you want, either or both of you - just let me know.



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just done some more checking and there is an Ellen and a Donald Watkinson also buried in this grave.



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bez
You are a star! That's them - the dates are exact

Ellen & Donald Watkinson are interesting. Nathan & Ellen's daughter (also Ellen) married a Peter Watkinson in 1905. They certainly had children named Donald and Ellen-Annie. Both however grew up and married; so not quite sure who these other residents are.

Steve these are the Watkinsons I think I mentioned in some of our other correspondence.

Other daughter Clara (my grandmother) was still at 3 Bright Street when she married in 1919.

Please do email me the details. I'm not going be up there anytime soon, but maybe if some other really really kind person is passing maybe they could take a quick snap  

Many thanks again
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:18 am    Post subject: Bingo! Reply with quote

What a good feeling it is to find an answer to a question.  Well done everyone...

Dotty      :smt031    



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Bez
You are a star! That's them - the dates are exact

Ellen & Donald Watkinson are interesting. Nathan & Ellen's daughter (also Ellen) married a Peter Watkinson in 1905. They certainly had children named Donald and Ellen-Annie. Both however grew up and married; so not quite sure who these other residents are.

Other daughter Clara (my grandmother) was still at 3 Bright Street when she married in 1919.

Please do email me the details. I'm not going be up there anytime soon, but maybe if some other really really kind person is passing maybe they could take a quick snap  

Many thanks again
Brian


Hopefully Steve might be able to do that sometime soon - I've sent him the details but there are problems because St Cuthbert's plans of the churchyard are incomplete - and one of the sections is this one.  On the bright side the NMFHS has recorded the inscription and I think the reason Steve missed it is because the grass had grown over it (he certainly did a grave only 2 rows nearer the church).  The last burial was in 2006 so the stone should still be visible.

I will give you the details from the gravestone when I have a bit more time, but this was just a quick check on my emails before I go to the theatre.





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