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Yvonne



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a marriage cert of a Catherine Abram to a Thomas Mawdesley.

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26th Feb 1854 Christ Church, North Meols
Thomas Mawdesley 24, Bachelor Labourer, Southport
Father John Mawdesley Labourer
Catherine Abram, 23, Spinster, Southport
Father Thomas Abram, Labourer

Witnesses George Mercer & Mary Lovelady

Catherine baptised 10 July 1831

I have that Thomas's parents were John and Isabella nee Kirby
Catherine's were Thomas and Catherine nee Formby nee Cantwell.

Elizabeth 1863 married John Aindow 9 Aug 1888  Formby
Catherine 1860 married
1. James Alcock in 1879. He died 1880
 2. Richard Houghton in 1882
Edward married Mary Esther Swift ? 1900 )
John married Ellen Andrews ? 1887          )  both only possible marriages




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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for that Yvonne.

I am currently waiting for the marriage certificate of James Mawdsley 1869 (my greatgrandfather) and Margeret Bond 1874 which will show the occupation of his father, Thomas. I have found various Thomas's, varying from labourer, through engine driver for the Lancs & Yorks Railway to shopkeeper - all born within a year or so of each other and all in the Ormskirk district. Think that the labourer is the correct one but we shall see.



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for this 'siblings' marriage, Yvonne - Thomas' brother Edward MAWDSLEY (b1835) of course marrying Catherine's sister Margaret ABRAM in Liverpool St Nicholas in 1858.
Incidentally (without wishing to appear at all pedantic) a lady can surely have only one 'nee', being the name she was born with? Would not the ABRAM girls' mother be more properly described as Catherine nee CANTWELL formerly FORMBY?


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Mawdsley family descends from Edward Mawdsley son of Edward Mawdsley and Margaret Abram, born 1865 in Formby.

Information that I have on other children of Edward and Margaret was obtained from a professional researcher giving 12 children in 16 years including two sets of twins!  

Can anyone give me idea at which church in Formby these siblings would have been christened so that I can correct dates if needed.

Thanks,  Irene



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think at that time it would be St Peter's



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

According to Elizabeth Abram's birth cert 10 Jan 1840 Snuttering Lane.
Mother
Catherine Abram late FORMBY formerly CANTWELL


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a list of churches on the forum - http://nmfhssouthport.myfreeforum.org/about1363.html



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is Thomas and Catherine in census living in Fomrby

1861
Thomas Mawdsley 33  Railway Plate Layer
Catherine Mawdsley 32  
Isabella Mawdsley 6  
Thomas Mawdsley 3  
Catherine Mawdsley 1  

1871
Thomas Mawdsley 42  Railway Labourer
Cathrine Mawdsley 41  
Thomas Mawdsley 13  
Cathrine Mawdsley 11  
Elizabeth Mawdsley 8  
John Mawdsley 6  
Edward Mawdsley 4  
James Mawdsley 1  

1881 - Robinson Square
Thomas Mawdsley 54  Plate Layer L & Y R
Catherine Mawdsley 52  
Thomas Mawdsley 23  
Catherine Alcock 21  
Elizabeth Mawdsley 18  
John Mawdsley 16  
Edward Mawdsley 14  
James Mawdsley 11  
Margaret Alcock 1  

1891
Thomas Mawderley 63  Railway Labourer
Catherine Mawderley 63  
Edward Mawderley 24  
James Mawderley 21  
Margaret Alcock 11  
John Aindow 23  
Elizabeth Mawderley 28  
Kate Aindow 2


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a tree on Ancestry that has James born 14 Nov 1869
Baptised 21 Nov 1869 Our Lady of Compassion, Formby
amd Catherine baptism 14 Oct 1894 Our Lady of Compassion.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 2:01 pm    Post subject: Edward Mawdsley born 5th May 1865 Reply with quote

Edward Mawdsley was baptised at Our Lady of the Sands Southport on the 14th May 1865. The God Parents were Thomas Mawdsley and Mary Elen Pye. Incidently I am am the son of Irene May Mawdsley the Great Grand daughter of Joseph Mawdsley. There was  9 children from the marriage to Maqrgaret Abram , 1 to Margaret Jones and 2 to Agnes. Incidently which of the 5 sons are you related to


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't you mean St Maries on the Sands, Southport, Jim???



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 3:00 pm    Post subject: Sorry Reply with quote

I got the Church mixed up


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 12:20 am    Post subject: Oh... Reply with quote

...probaly too much excitement for one day!

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, the certificates from the GRO that I referred to last week have arrived (delay courtesy of the postal workers' dispute).

On the Birth Certificate of Margaret Ellen Bond, born 06 March 1874 in Formby, her name is given as Maggy Ellen and her mother is Cecily Bond of Formby.  The space for Name and Surname of Father, and the space for Occupation of Father are both left blank.  The birth was registered on 14 April 1874 by Cecily Bond, Mother and the Registrar was J. Shepherd.

According to and Entry of Marriage, on 06 June 1894, at the Church of Our Lady of Compassion, Formby, in the District of Ormskirk in the County of Lancaster the marriage took place between James Mawdsley, age 24 years, bachelor, general labourer of Liverpool Road, Formby and Margaret Ellen Bond, age 20 years, spinster also of Liverpool Road, Formby.

The father of James Mawdsley is given as Thomas Mawdsley, Railway Platelayer.

The name of Margaret Ellen Bond's father is not given (the space is struck through).  The witnesses were Edward Mawdsley and Agnes Bond.  The priest was Wilfrid Carr and the Registrar was J. Shepherd.

Margaret Ellen Mawdsley died on 18 September 1900 and on her Death Certificate she is shown as having died at Liverpool Road, Formby, aged 26 years.  She is recorded as being the wife of James Mawdsley, General Labourer.  The cause of death is certified as Puerperal Fever, 7 days after confinement, by Dr R P Sykes (I think).  The death was registered on 18 September 1900 by J Mawdsley, Widower of deceased, living at Liverpool Road, Formby.  The Registrar was J Carr.

I believe that Cecily Bond 1858 was the daughter of Thomas Bond abt 1813 of Formby and Mary Taylor abt 1830. I believe that they married in Q2 of 1857. According to the 1861 Census, Mary was born at sea and the 1871 Census appears to indicate that she was born in Africa but was a British Subject.

I have looked through the posts on nmfss for references to Bonds but haven't found any so far.  Any help would be appreciated.



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think you've got the right marriage for Cecily's parents.  Thomas Bond was my 3rd great granduncle, and his wife Mary Taylor my third great grandaunt (in her own right).  Both were born and lived in Banks, and are buried at St John's, Crossens.

From North Meols Parish Registers (on microfiche) at Lancashire Record Office, Marriages 1837 - 1857, PR 3361/1/13 extracted by SPB.
Page 250, Entry 500
1857.  Marriage solemnized at the Parish Church in the Parish of  North Meols in the County of  Lancaster
June 27th  [1857]        Thomas Bond aged 20, Bachelor, Labourer residing in Banks, son of  John Bond, Labourer
                               &  Mary Taylor aged 20, Spinster residing in Banks, daughter of  James Taylor, Labourer
Married in the Parish Church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church after Banns by me,  Charles Hesketh  Rector

This Marriage was solemnized between us,  The mark x of Thomas Bond,  The mark x of Mary Taylor
in the Presence of us,  The mark x of James Taylor,  Peter Watkinson [signs]

From grave in St John's Church, Rufford Road, Crossens

      In Loving Memory Of
           Thomas Bond,
        Died July 1st 1909
          Aged 72 Years.
Also Mary, Wife of the above
    Died March 28th 1930,
          Aged 92 Years.
           "Re- united."




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