Seacop has ancestors in the lime Kiln area. I think she got a wonderful photo of the area from the local reference library - but my memory isn't that good. No doubt she will reply on her next visit to the forum
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The National Archives | Access to Archives North Meols, be registered as a Nonconformist place of worship QSP/2913/22 1829 18 May Order of removal of John Oxley, Nancy his wife and Marianne,
This must be them in 1841 in Chorley
John Oxley 40
Nancy Oxley 40
Mary Oxley 15
Nancy Oxley 15
Esther Oxley 14
William Oxley 12
Thomas Oxley 10
Alice Oxley 5
John Oxley 2 6 Mo
Thanks v. much - you North Meols folks are SO helpful! I was very intrigued by the news about "Removal orders". I had never explored the "Access to Archives" link so had to investigate straight away! (I've found the definition of "Removal Orders" and "Settlement" if anyone is interested)
I wondered at first if the John Oxley mentioned might have been father of my John but the ages don't tie up. Also, my John always says that he was born in Warrington.
Lime Kilns was an area off Manchester Road (opposite side to where The Mount Pleasant Pub is now) and probably behind Mount Street. I do have a wonderful picture by Edwin Beattie of Lime Kilns Cottages; my stepfather's grandfather, Thomas Rimmer, was a carter of Lime Kilns on (I think) the 1871 Census.
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That's really helpful news. I had hoped that Lime Kilns was near to Mount St as it would be another indication that my Elizabeth Oxley (formerly Leadbetter) was still living near to the Thomas Leadbetter (who might have been her father) and his family.
If you check on old-maps.com, find a Southport map, go north and then find Holy Trinity Church, then follow Manchester Road along you will see Mount Pleasant - then scroll down slowly and you should be able to see Lime Kilns (it is possible to print off a copy as well).
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Thanks so much, Seacop Rimmer, I can't wait to investigate further. I'm torn between spending time just now or disappearing in front of the tele to see the last "Who do you think you are?" I am very interested in your picture of Lime Kiln Cottages. More Later!
Hi Beryl. Just been rooting about the Elizabeth Leadbetter married in 1859 married William Wignall. Found them on the 1861 census . So that marriage can be discounted. Don't know if you had this but thought I would post it anyway.
Germiane.
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Elizabeth Leadbetter 16
John Leadbetter 14
Peter Leadbetter 12
Elizabeth Wignal 43
Henry Wignall 1
William Wignall 51
Thanks again Germaine for your efforts on my behalf. Yes, I have a copy of the Marriage cert for Elizabeth L and William Wignall - that Elizabeth was a widow when she married WW and must have been a Rimmer before her first marriage. (Her father's name is given as John Rimmer).
On a different tack, I've just discovered the birth in 1861 of a boy (in the Ormskirk distrist) called John Thomas Oxley and his death in 1864. I have sent for his birth cert and am hoping that he turns out to be the child of my John and Elizabeth. The dates would fit in with what I know about them. Perhaps they named him after family and my guess that Elizabeth's father was the Thomas Leadbetter who was living in Mount St when they were living in the same area is right. Fingers crossed!
Wasn't sure so thought I would let you know.
Thought she must have been widowed they had children with her Leadbetters.
Oh that does sound promising John Thomas. Hope they turn out to be in the same area. Hopefully same addres now that would be great.
Good Luck
Germaine
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Thanks Germaine! I got the birth cert today and was v v pleased to find that John Thomas Oxley, born July 1861, was the child of my John and Elizabeth. They were living at "Haweside, Southport" then so it looks as though Eizabeth just might have been the daughter of THOMAS!! What do you think??
Beryl
Hi Beryl certainly looks like it doesn't it. The childs middle name does point to it.
Now to find the elusive marrige.
It must have been in the area.
Germaine
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