when i found 22 west street belonging to mary ann rimmer' mother then sibblings.it brought me back to the group picture taken in west street.not all people are named yet(mostly the right hand side of photo are not accounted for.
i also have a couple of pictures of two ladies who are the the group picture possible mother and daughter? but not drittler' ?? maybe rimmer' from next door?? they seem very nicely dressed.
i have asked all i know in the family but nobody knows who they are.
i will scan them and send you copies if you think they are possible rimmers as well.
you have the group picture from west street?
dead centre is mary ann drittler nee rimmer,on HER left is the lady i have other pictures of and the younger lady on the end,the pictures are of the 2 of them together?
also don't know who the lady is on her right?.could it be her sister alice?
maybe your nephew's wife or family can recognise them.
depending on the year she visited my nan and grandad were the last drittler' in west street,until my nan died in 1965
Back row : third from left John Nicholas Drittler
Centre row : Bertha Jarvis (nee Drittler), George Jarvis, ?, ?, Elizabeth Ann Drittler (nee Rimmer), ?, Elizabeth Cocker (nee Fletcher), Ann Drittler (nee Cockler), ?
Front row : ?, Herman Drittler, ?, John Drittler
I dare say that the young man on the left of the back row could possibly be George Drittler?
Does this help?
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thank you,yes i have those.that is all my direct family;uncle, grand parents,grt grandparents and grt aunts and uncles.
i have
back left; albert drittler,lilly drittler nee robinson,john nicholas drittler,george drittler,sally drittler nee ??,??,??. middle from left; bertha jarvis nee drittler,george jarvis,elsie wilson nee drittler,??,elizabeth ann drittler nee rimmer,??,elizabeth cocker nee fletcher,annie sarah drittler nee cocker,??, front fron left; ??,herman fletcher drittler(the youngest child),??,john leonard drittler.
and that accounts for all my drittler family,but i have in my dads family pictures those two other pictures of the lady to elizabeths left who must be family?? somehow? john nicholas drittler is from germany with no other family here but his children who are in the pic. so i can only think it must be a rimmer connection?
to the best i can work out the picture is taken around 1914/15
as john n drittler then goes to Knockaloe,isle of man and is released around 1918/19
My first father-in-law, John Nixon, was a plumber in Peel, Isle of Man and during WWII he had internees from Knockaloe Camp working for him; I thought that all internees had previously been sent to Douglas, didn't know Knockaloe had been 'built' in WWI
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Those are interesting sites - thanks, although I was concerned to note that they talk about 'prisoners-of-war' more than internees; most of the people incarcerated on the Isle of Man during the war were not military personnel.
I know that my in-laws had paintings which had been done by internees at Knockaloe Camp; they also had two circular pieces of work (about the size of a dinner plate) made of iron which internees had beaten and cut into scenes (hard to describe and I can't draw at all) which looked like silhouettes when placed on the wall, they were really nice.
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thank you jane those sites are very interesting.i know very little about the place.
i only know that is where my grt grandfather was sent and he became close to someone of wealth from london and when released he spent a little time in london with this person? "living it up" before returning to southport.no stories of bad treatment were passed down but then none of good was either only that he was there.
would love to have something made by him though seacoprimmer those pieces sound very interesting.
my dad had a cigarette case made in WW2 with a picture pressed/engraved into it of a map on the front and a naked lady inside. i was always fascinated by who could have made it and what happened to them etc
mary - if you ever get the chance to go to the Isle of Man go to the Manx History Museum (their are several sites across the Island, all telling different aspects of their history) and in the one which has Peel history they have a lot of information about the camps.
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thank you,i have that on my wish list now:-) i would love to go although i predict i will find it to be quite an emotional place.
unfortunately my husband is first in with a trip to Ireland.
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