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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:14 am    Post subject: John gregson b 1809 Reply with quote

Hi everyone

Im fairly new to this so apologize if i do anything wrong

I am looking for the father of a John Gregson born 1809 in the penwortham area

although i realize its not quite your area I obviously know that there are lots of gregsons near you and someone might have come across him in their own research

this is how he fits in

my grandad lewis gregson 1918
son of
joseph gregson 1888
son of
james gregson 1867
son of
james 1831
son of
John gregson 1809  who married Hannah Bradshaw in walton le dale in 1827   havent got as far as the marriage cert yet but have been told it doesnt have father details on it

i know this is a real stumbling block for me and a number of others any help or further info would be greatly appreciated

thanks in advance



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi.  First of all, there will be no actual marriage certificate as they didn't come in until 1837.  Before this date we have to rely on the Parish Register entries, and yes, your information is generally correct in that the registers didn't usually give father's details at that time, although there were exceptions to that rule.  A lot depends on the religious denomination as to how much was recorded.  

What is needed is to look at the registers and see who had a child with the same name and then have a look at "naming patterns".  Wills and burial registers can also provide clues as to family members.

The biggest problem is with the same common first names being repeated in many different family groups.

Good Luck.



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would think a trip to Lancashire Record Office is in order (that's if you can get there)?



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks guys  might not be able to get to the LRO   got his birth from his grave in preston old cemetry     where he and his wife and kids are buried  just need to find his parents to link up

thanks again


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I may be going to LRO but not for a couple of weeks, but if you don't mind waiting............ Wink



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that would be fantastic    I will send what details i have shortly

what do you need that would make things easier

thanks
debs


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Send me an e-mail with as much information as you have and I'll take it from there - obviously I can't promise a result Wink



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

email will be sent in the next day or two    cant thank you enough


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Went to LRO today but didn't feel so good and left earlier than intended, however:
29.10.1827 - Parochial Chapel of Walton le Dale, by Banns
John X Gregson married Hannah X Bradshaw
by Rendle H Fielden, Curate
Witnesses:  William Wilson and James Tomlison
Couldn't get access to the original records and the Lancashire Parish Register Society copy said they were married 11.11.1827?

Keep reminding me and I'll have a look for John's birth next time Wink



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 8:52 am    Post subject: Busy Reply with quote

I hope you're feeling more like yourself now, seacop.

You did a grand job...

Dotty    



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks ever so much


beginning to feel better now


best wishes and take care

debs


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hello everyone

does anyone know how i can get further back with this   I dont know what to do next basically   cant find anything  or perhaps im just not looking!!

thanks in advance
debs


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 10:06 pm    Post subject: Where to next? Reply with quote

Hi Debs

I'm 100% sure we can get you back 'further' than you are but I'm also 100% sure you will have to give us something more to go on...

Names, dates, anything you have...do you live locally?  Maybe we already know this..but I'm a dozy bovine!

Bring it on girl!!!

Dotty   Rolling Eyes      



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi

i live in sale   not a million miles away but not quite local

seecop rimmer found the marriage details of

john gregson born 1809 cuerdon green and hannah bradshaw for me

thanks

but i dont know who his or her parents were and therefore am stuck

between them they had a bunch of children ending up in my grandad lewis gregson b 1919

john gregson and hannah are both buried in preston old cemetry and i have a copy of the grave records  i just dont know what to do next

any help will be greatly appreciated

thanks

ps what other info do you need


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a case of searching parish records for their baptisms. Not easy with that surname. Maybe census inforamtion gives you a clue as to where they were born so leads onto the parish to look in.

Have you tried the IGI?  That is always worth looking at - then you can look at the parish record to make sure the information is correct.

Parish records for Lancashire are held at the Lancashire Record Office in Preston.



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