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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh I wish it was like that here Bob wold save us some money.
Like Jane sid not so easy.
It is the other way round with me Jane. I think my Grandfather was the immaculate  conception can't find him or who he said he was his father anywhere. An Irish family living in Liverpool   Mum swore he grew up there but!!!. Roll on the 1911 census hopefully he told the truth on it and there will be a clue.
Oh talking of that I got the news mail for that will find a thread to put it on.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like Peter (son of George and Mary) only lasted a year in the Army before being medically discharged.
Cannot find Service records but he is on Ancestry in the WW1 pensions sector.
No 32449
deffo him as it gives his father George at 88 Linaker St.

(not 5 Byran/Byrom St one - he's one of my relly's)


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good news for clubbyr8.  The death Germaine found was the correct one and I found a superb funeral write up in the Visiter today. I shall be in touch to Bob with the full thing later :grin:



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's great Jane, do you think Bob will be able to get further back now?


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure. It mentions children, that he was a native of Southport (lovely phrases they had :grin: ) and his police career dates. he was a private detective after retiring from the police.

While searching for that I found a few things that might make good articles for the society magazine too.



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look forward to reading them  


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great stuff Jane. A private detective after he retired oh we could do with him here to sort out his family.
I hope there are some clues in the oribtuary.
Oh I have been busy on here too.
I really do think my theory is right.
Too complicated to write down right now.
But it boils down to although the family was using the name Meadows in census, later on they did change to Howard and oh dear found one of them marrying another Meadows. Will have to work out what relation they were to each other.  I don't have that marriage cert itself but someone sent me the details off it Betty Howard married James Meadows in 1864 her father Thomas a lab. James Meadows was my GG Grandmothers brother now there is another mystery. . I am going to double check with the lady that sent me the details see if she has any further info on Betty see if I am right.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sensational, ladies, sensational. I don't know what to say!!

Sounds like there were quite a few at the funeral. It's interesting to note that the bearers were all old colleagues from the police force yet Ken can't find any record of him being in the force.

I notice my Granddad (Peter) is listed as being there but my Dad (Norman) is not, maybe he was in the RAF by then.

He is listed as being buried in Duke Cemetery. Is that still there? Are there any MI for that cemetery?

I also notice there is no mention of his wife Mary. Do you think that would mean she had all ready passed away, as I don't don't know when she died either?

I'll also have to start looking at the Rimmer side but I gather that's like being related to a "Smith".

Again thank you all for your help.



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Duke Street Cemetery is still being used.
The Southport Crematorium holds the information about graves at Duke St.

Good luck with Rimmer's


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We have a separate section on the forum for Rimmers - common as anything round here :grin:

I haven't found one in my husband's family though and I do keep looking

Um no mention of George's wife in the death notice or funeral report. It doesn't even say he was a widower? But chief mourners are his sons so I guess his wife had already died.

If you find the grave you may find her. Any headstone may mention death dates etc.

I have just read floral tributes - Old Smoke Room Pals at the Volunteer Arms. That pub is still there.

From the staff at The Scarisbrick Hotel. Another place still around. I had my wedding bash there.

Like you say bob very well attended by the police. But I think Sandy Ken explained how some records from Lancashire were lost in the re-organisation of the boundary.



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Southport Crematorium  will be able to provide a grave location and say whether or not there is a headstone BUT what they do not have any record of is the inscription on the grave.  That would require someone getting the grave location and going to find the grave in Duke Street to see what it said.

Having said that, the Crem staff can be remarkably helpful if you ask the right questions.  They will tell you who else is in the grave and when they were buried.  They will also tell you the purchase date of the grave and the name and address of the owner - but you need to ask - they don't often volunteer the information, it depends on who answers the phone.



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 1:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yvonne wrote:
Looks like Peter (son of George and Mary) only lasted a year in the Army before being medically discharged.
Cannot find Service records but he is on Ancestry in the WW1 pensions sector.
No 32449
deffo him as it gives his father George at 88 Linaker St.

(not 5 Byran/Byrom St one - he's one of my relly's)


Thanks Yvonne, Peter is my Granddad. I wonder how he felt, his brother Norman got killed in 1917 and my dad Norman probably got named after him.



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is lovely what Jane has found.

Hope you find out more and good luck with the Rimmers.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You may find he got discharged for something not very serious - and may even have managed to get back in

I had a great uncle who was discharged as medically unfit a few weeks after joining up. 2 years later he died of a urinary infection in France. He was obviously allowed to enrol once more when the country needed more men to fight because of the numbers being killed



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