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Yes he was the one I've linked to (without proof) and his parents were John Rimmer and Mary Marshall. However, the 1861 Census has his birthplace as North Meols (not more specific). On the Park database there is another Peter Rimmer born 26 Apr 1836 in Churchtown, North Meols. Parents were John Rymer and Mary Howard. This individual ties in better with the Death listing that Germaine found.
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This Peter Rimmer (born 26th April 1836, baptised 15th June same year) is a younger brother of my gr gr grandfather Thomas Rimmer, born 1820.
He married Jennet Brookfield at St Cuthbert's on 31st October 1857 and she was the daughter of Peter Brookfield, carter, of Churchtown. There is the possibility that she might be the daughter of the Peter Brookfield, carter, who lived at the cottage next door to me at the time of the Tithe Map/1841 census - something for me to look into.
St Cuthbert's burial register lists a Peter Rimmer aged 33 years as being buried on 19/5/1869 - is this the one? It gives the residence as Marshside.
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Hi Bez,
Yes I think that's the one. Peter and Jennet's last child (Alice) was born in 1868 and the 1871 census shows Jennet (Jenney, Jennie) as a widow.
So this looks like the correct Peter.
Thanks Bez.
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Now, here's the thing - the Society has indexed the 1851 census and there is no Jennet Brookfield in North Meols at that time - however there is a Jane Brookfield aged 15, daughter of Peter Brookfield and his wife Ellen of Churchtown. She was born on 21st November 1835 and baptised on December 27th the same year at the Independent Chapel, Churchtown. The Rev William Alexander wrote her mother's name down as Helen, maiden name Abram.
The names Jane and Jenny have been interchangeable in a number of instances and this seems to be another case. "Jennet" Brookfield's age is given as 22 in the marriage register and if this is really Jane then she only knocked 3 weeks off her actual age.
I have just checked the 1841 census and she was listed as Jenny, while she is Jane on the 1851 census and with a younger brother called Thomas Brookfield.
On the 1861 census Peter Brookfield's occupation changes to "Carter" so I do think that Jane, Jenny and Jennet are all the same person.
Now I can work out how my next door neighbour is related to me.
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PS. Bob - what relationship is Peter Rimmer to you?
John Rimmer and Mary Howard were my 3x gr grandparents.
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Hi Bez,
Peter and Jennet were my Great Great Grandparents. If all the information is correct.
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Hi Bob
If all this is correct then you and I are 4th cousins and you are a 3rd cousin once removed from my next door neighbour.
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As I said previously, Peter Brookfield (Jennet's father) is listed on the tithe map as occupying the cottage next door (albeit with others). However my neighbour says that is where the family lived for the last 160+ years and as they attended the Congo's (being the nearest church) with the Rimmer family that is where Jennet was most likely brought up.
I can email you a photo of the cottage if you pm me with your email address, although not just at the moment as I am at my sister's house at the other end of the village.
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| Thanks Bez, PM sent.
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Maybe this post Dotty would have been better in a different place.
But having had contact with a few other societies I do think we are one of a few (if not only?) who offer free research. Most charge at least a small fee and some a huge amount.
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| I think Dotty was just commenting on how, between us all, we have got Bob's ancestors sorted and I've had the added bonus of getting a new cousin. We offer so much more than many larger societies.
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