Rymer/Rimmer

sheilarmarland · Joined: 04 Nov 2008 Posts: 25 Location: Bolton Lancashire

Have Alice Rymer/Rimmer born 1815 parents Robert Rymer and Margaret Barton. Think Alice married a Samuel Jackson born 1817. Cannot find when they married nor where they lived prior to 1871. On the 1871 faded census I think their address was Temperance Hall North Meols and Samuels occupation was Hall Keeper Porter. Alice's father Robert llived with them. On the 1871 census they lived in Bankfield Lane, North Meols and Samuel was a Boat superintendent at the Botanic Gardens! Any information on Alice and Samuel would be helpful. Thanks

BrianG · Joined: 18 Feb 2006 Posts: 431 Location: Cambridge UK

Hi
The "Park" database has this Alice married to one Thomas Cadwell. It would be interesting if you can prove a different marriage...

Brian
(Alice is a 1/2 3rd cousin

)

Germaine · Joined: 28 Jun 2006 Posts: 747 Location: Fleetwood

This must be the marriage you are looking for Shelia but don't know if it is the right Alice.
Germaine
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Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1840
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
JACKSON Samuel RIMMER Alice All Saints,Wigan Wigan & Leigh C33/2/461

BrianG · Joined: 18 Feb 2006 Posts: 431 Location: Cambridge UK

Believe it or not there are 3 Alice Rimmers in the frame:
chr 22/1/1815, d of Robert Rimmer & Margaret
chr 29/1/1815, d of Richard Rimmer & Alice
chr 29/1/1815, d of John Rimmer & Ann

plus (although probably a year too old) 2 Alice Rymers
chr 6/2/1814, d of Robert Rymer & Elizabeth
chr 6/2/1814, d of William Rymer & Ann

Samuel Jackson could be the one christened at the Wesleyan Chapel 26/5/1816, s of John Jackson & Jenny Rymer/Rimmer

Strange that Samuel & Alice should marry in 1840 then disappear for 30 years, to pop up on the 1871 on census living with the old man Robert, who is the right age too; which does point fairly conclusively to it being Alice # 1

I think I'm convinced! I wonder which one Thomas Cadwell actually married?
Brian
(PS just realized I've got a distant interest in all those Alice Rimmers

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Germaine · Joined: 28 Jun 2006 Posts: 747 Location: Fleetwood

Hi Bryan and Shelia,
Have only had a quick look but we know from the census that her father was Robert and I think I found a Robert with a daughter the right age in 1861 with mother Elizabeth which points to what Brain says Alice one.
But where were they for 30 years

Think that will give me something different to look for this morning if I find anything I will let you know. They must have been around somewhere.
Germaine
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Germaine · Joined: 28 Jun 2006 Posts: 747 Location: Fleetwood

Think I might have found something.

IGI
LYDIA JACKSON Pedigree
Female
Birth: 1841 Southport, Lancashire, England
Parents:
Father: SAMUEL JACKSON
Mother: ALICE JACKSON .

1841
Lydia Jackson abt 1841 Lancashire, England Preston, Lancashire

BrianG · Joined: 18 Feb 2006 Posts: 431 Location: Cambridge UK

Germaine · Joined: 28 Jun 2006 Posts: 747 Location: Fleetwood

Yes that is what I thought Brian. No I can't find any sign of them yet after 1841.
Germaine
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Jane · Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 10:28 am Post subject:

If it is a member submission you can actually get in touch with them. It is likely they are researching that family for their own genealogy.

I managed to make contact with a member because the entry was down as that. Sadly it was an elderly lady in America who just liked the name so added it along with her own ancestors..................

But it was so long ago I can't remember who I had to write to - I think it was an American address. Not sure if they work in the same way now either but it might be worth having a look at their site.

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Mad on Genealogy or just plain mad? :)

Germaine · Joined: 28 Jun 2006 Posts: 747 Location: Fleetwood

HiJane it just says
Messages:
Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church. No additional information is available. Ancestral File may list the same family and the submitter.
Source Information:
No source information is available.
Nothing on the ancestral file.
Germaine
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BrianG · Joined: 18 Feb 2006 Posts: 431 Location: Cambridge UK

Germaine · Joined: 28 Jun 2006 Posts: 747 Location: Fleetwood

Well still looking

have found father Robert in 1851.
Germaine
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Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2196; Folio: 428; Page: 20; GSU roll: 87205
Robert Remmer abt 1792 North Meols, Lancashire, England Lodger North Meols, Lancashire

And 1861 but no sign of Alice and Samuel.

Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2761; Folio: 90; Page: 53; GSU roll: 543025
Robt Rimmer abt 1791 North Meols, Lancashire, England Boarder North Meols, Lancashire

BrianG · Joined: 18 Feb 2006 Posts: 431 Location: Cambridge UK

Germaine · Joined: 28 Jun 2006 Posts: 747 Location: Fleetwood

Oh don't they just, they do like to make things easy NOT!!!
Still makes it a challenge.
Germaine
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sheilarmarland · Joined: 04 Nov 2008 Posts: 25 Location: Bolton Lancashire

Hi everyone just got on line and you guys have sure been busy!! Thanks to all of you. I agree with the thought that mine and Brian's Alice is the first one just wondered where they disappeared to for 30 years. America, Canada? On the census it does say he was a boatman, also says at the botanical gardens, so was he an actual boatman in which case he could have been at sea. Just a thought. Will keep searching land and sea.
Sheila

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