I will have to check with them on that Bez.
It is doubtful they will do that, just by the fact they said "we can send you copies of specific information".
Just yesterday I loaded XP operating system on my computer, and lost some of my data in the process, so it may take some time to get back up to speed with my geneology.
Jim
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Good to hear from you again.
I have been reading from the Annals of Southport on the link bobg sent me. I'm just beginning the read, and it is very interesting material.
I find it a pleasure conversing with people who are in the UK, and those from other parts who have a great interest in the Mother Land.
Thanks bobg for the link.
Jim
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If you look back you will see that this is actually the same link as I posted on 12th April, along with one for the History of North Meols (published in the Victoria County History of Lancashire) by William Farrer.
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I was distracted by problems with my system about then, and I apologize for not giving you credit for the link. Thanks for reminding me of it.
I like the way Bland has things in chronological order. That does make it much easier to research.
I have found someone recorded in the County of Northumberland who I need to confirm. The records are quite difficult to get the correct spelling of some of the information.
I will peruse the web sites more carefully from now on.
Thank you Bez
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The ads at the bottom of the page keep changing but I was just about to close down the computer when I realised there was a reply on this thread, so I checked it and spotted an ad for Meols Hall.
This explains the amount of traffic coming down the side entrance to the hall sometimes (it's opposite the end of my road) which I thought a bit strange as the family no longer live here.
Anyway, there are some nice photos (and nice prices) and I thought you might appreciate a little peak at our local manor house. There is another one in Manor Road which once belonged to the Bold family, but that is tiny and has no land. Meols Hall belongs to the Hesketh family nowadays.
PS. The main view is of the back of the house with the Ha Ha in the bottom half of the photo.
The photo of a room with a picture of a stallion on the wall is the library which was built to house the painting. The "Painting of a Fly-blown stallion" is life-sized.
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Bez,
Thanks for the link to Meols Hall. I think the furnishing are great, and what about the prices...they are great also (in another meaning of the word).
So I take it you live close to Meols Hall? How fortunate to be a part of all that history and culture ! I'm envious.
Jim
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Yes, I live in Churchtown and my de Coudray ancestors built the first Meols Hall, but no one in my direct line of descent has been Lord of the Manor since about 1488.
The grandfather of the present Lord of the Manor actually did the "Father of the Bride" speech at my wedding (many years ago) as my father didn't like public speaking at all. They were business partners as well as friends.
It's true that I do feel very close to some of my ancestors, especially my 4x gr grandparents, John Hooton and Ellen Aughton who were founder members of the Independent Chapel (now Churchtown URC). John was also credited with the introduction of handloom weaving for cotton into this area.
This is a beautiful area and well worth a visit if you ever get to come over here - even if you find that your ancestors originated from the other Meols.
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I have looked at many pictures of the area, and it truly is as beautiful as I imagined. I have wanted to visit the UK for quite some time now, and when my search for ancestors is over, I will plan the trip. Strange, but there has always been a desire in my heart to visit the area, as well as Ireland and Scotland.
I have always felt a draw toward Meols of Wirral. I feel it is that area I will find family roots.
Bez, if ever you find information, be it a web site or book material, please pass it along. "Let loose the hounds", and they are fast afoot.
Jim Mails(Meols)
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By the way, the names of Ball, Rimmer and Wright of North Meols are all recorded on the rolls of the Preston Guilds in the course of the eighteenth century. Scarisbrick is of course 'of Scarisbrick'. It might be worth looking at the rolls to see who was listed. The very fact of being on these rolls gave the families a considerable importance and influence beyond the confines of their own estates.
Paul Sutcliffe
Paul, I am such a novice at this whole thing...finding all the resources etc. Where can I access the Preston Guilds you speak of? I apologize for being such a bother, however I thank you so very much for your help.
Jim Mails
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I have been informed that they may be freely available online by 2011, if Preston are prepared to host the lists on their website. As there are about sixty thousand names and the rolls have been recorded every 20 years since the beginning of the fourteenth century up until 1992, this will be no mean task. It relies on the work of volunteers, just like Lancashire BMD, for its completion. The next Preston Guild , by the way , is in 2012. The early documents are kept at Lancashire Record Office. William Alexander Abrams,famous Lancashire historian specializing in family history amongst other things, produced a document in 1882 entitled 'Memorials of the Preston Guilds'.(reprinted by Preston corporation in paperback form 1971) He gives summaries of the most important names of the families registered in Preston starting about 1397. The actual rolls contain much more detailed information, I am told, giving family names, places of residence( estate names), occupations etc. It was a bit like Eton , I think, you registered your male offspring as soon as they were born. There were two types of roll members the so-called In-Burgesses who had property in Preston and the foreign Burgesses who did not live there but wanted to be registered. No real distinction is made between the, in modern terms, 'social class' of the registered so that Earls are alongside traders. From the number of different Estates registered you can see the power and influence of various families spread over a wide geographical area. A good example would be the Heskeths who were also very prominent in North Meols / Southport.( 1772 Hesketh of Wrightington, of Meols, of Maines, of Rosaker). 1722 Hesketh of Rufford, of Goosnargh and of Preston. 1702 with names 'Thomas Hesketh of Rufford esq. and his son;Thomas Hesketh of Maines and his four sons; William Hesketh son of Barnaby of Meales and his brother; Roger Hesketh of Meales and his two brothers. I don't have access to the full names just some summaries, but you can see that a full publication would give the chance for amateur family historians to follow their lineage back into earlier centuries.
Paul
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