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PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 5:19 pm    Post subject: George Lloyd (m Margaret Taylor) Reply with quote

Finally got round to getting marriage certificate.
George was the son of Wickliff Lloyd and Ann Leadbetter. In turn, Wickliff seems to have been the son of George, a bastard son of Susanna Lloyd. Is that where my trail ends, or does anyone know if there was a bastady 'thingymajig' which would name the father.
The register says Susanna of London - London, N Meols, or the big city?


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 6:37 pm    Post subject: Father of George Reply with quote

According to a book I have on the Poor Law Administration in North Meols, Susanna Loyd was delivered of a male child on Thursday 9 Feb and the putative father is given as James Reeve, a weaver of Hindle. Th Bastardy Order was dated 1 May 1797 and awarded £2 10s 9d for childbirth and 1s 3d for maintenance.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 6:39 pm    Post subject: PS Reply with quote

The London referred to will be Little London in North Meols



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 9:43 pm    Post subject: George Lloyd Reply with quote

You can always rely on people here!
Thanks JodyLloyd!


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're very welcome

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds a good book. Where is it from?



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:24 pm    Post subject: Book Reply with quote

It's a slim volume I got at a Family History Fair - on the spine it says 18th Century North Meols Poor Law & Rideout. However, it's obviously come from another book as the page numbers start at page 62 with the piece "Poor Law Administration in North Meols in the Eighteenth Century" by Eric Hardwicke Rideout. The second piece in the book is "Emigration to British North America under the Early Passenger Acts 1802-1842" by Kathleen A Walpole, MA

The North Meols paper includes Certificates of Settlement, Removal Orders, Confirmation or Cancellation of Removal Orders, Bastardy Orders, Confirmation or Cancellation of Bastardy Orders, Bonds, Apprentice Indentures and Miscellaneous. If you're looking for a particular name, I'll happily have a "look-see".

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 5:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Book Reply with quote

jodylloyd wrote:
it's obviously come from another book as the page numbers start at page 62 with the piece "Poor Law Administration in North Meols in the Eighteenth Century" by Eric Hardwicke Rideout.
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This book perhaps:
Poor Law Administration in North Meols in the Eighteenth Century
by Rideout, Eric Hardwicke
Transactions of the Historic Society of Lancashire & Cheshire ( THSLC ) Volume 81 1930 p62-109  

Might help to find it at the library...



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds very interesting.

Thanks for the offer of a look up. I can't think of anyone though

NB I did  Google search. All I got was Halton library......

I then did a search of Southport library. They don't have it. Well not catalogued.



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 6:57 pm    Post subject: Southport Library Reply with quote

I found it in the on-line catalogue:

Personal Name  Rideout, E H  
Title  Poor law administration in North Meols in the 18th century  
DDC current editions  S942.72  
Publication  1929  
Control Number  x009659217  
Format:  Local History  
Copy Availability
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S942.72 MEO/Rid
Not For Loan
Reference Standard
Items shown in red are not available for loan

I'm guessing the copy I've got is a re-bind of part of this book

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I put the wrong surname in....a real blonde moment - put Hardwicke  



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even if Southport Library didn't have the book you want, they will find one and get it sent over - then you can sit in the Reference Section and read it - at these times it's useful to have a laptop to type up the 'useful' bits;  Mr SeaCop asked for a book which was sent over from America (but he could bring it home to read it)



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I feel sure that the Rideout papers are actually in the NMFHS library, because I remember borrowing them a couple of years ago.



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 11:03 pm    Post subject: Re: George Lloyd (m Margaret Taylor) Reply with quote

Delboy wrote:
Finally got round to getting marriage certificate.
George was the son of Wickliff Lloyd and Ann Leadbetter. In turn, Wickliff seems to have been the son of George, a bastard son of Susanna Lloyd. Is that where my trail ends, or does anyone know if there was a bastady 'thingymajig' which would name the father.
The register says Susanna of London - London, N Meols, or the big city?


My information is that Wickliffe married Mary Lawson and Ann Leadbetter was his mother.



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 12:02 am    Post subject: Re: George Lloyd (m Margaret Taylor) Reply with quote

Bez wrote:
My information is that Wickliffe married Mary Lawson and Ann Leadbetter was his mother.

That's what I have too (although FreeBMD has helpfully transcribed it as Cawson) Reference is Liverpool Vol 20 Page 179, Sep Qtr 1849

EDIT: Actually the handwritten index does say Cawson (it's listed under "C" )





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