When you do go on 1911 census it may be worth a look at this, if you haven't already found it.
HOUSEHOLD GILLIERS JOHN M 1882 29 Ormskirk Lancashire
HOUSEHOLD GILLIERS HELEN F 1859 52 Ormskirk Lancashire
HOUSEHOLD GILLIERS MAUD F 1890 21 Ormskirk Lancashire
HOUSEHOLD GILLIERS WILLIAM M 1849 62 Ormskirk Lancashire
HOUSEHOLD GILLIERS WILLIAM M 1904 7 Ormskirk Lancashire
I put in the search John
Surame Starting with G
born 1882 +2 years
born Wigan.
It brought up a few names but this one seems very close
Also if you go into a search for place and put
Address CLIFFORD ROAD
County Lancashire
District Ormskirk
Sub District BIRKDALE
Residence SOUTHPORT
42 CLIFFORD ROAD BIRKDALE Southport Ormskirk Lancashire
will come up then you could see who lives there
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 9:32 pm Post subject: Re: Searching Divorce Records
Yvonne,
Thank you for doing that research. I had never thought of just putting in a first initial to see what comes up. I'll check this out and try with other people I'm looking for. Thank you also for the info on searching an address in the census
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 10:08 pm Post subject: Re: John "Gilliers"
Yvonne,
I just looked at your message again. I didn't realize that what you had researched was the actual 1911 census. You have solved a large part of the mystery of what happened to our uncle William when he was a child. William and John must have returned to John's parents' home so that he could work and his mother could care for William. This knowledge will enable me to search for him later in directories, etc. I just checked the names and ages against my records of the 1891 census and this must be my family. I can't thank you enough. I know you must have used some of your credits to search, so I would like to reimburse you for your time and credits spent. Would you PM me with your address, please? Thank you, again.
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 8:41 am Post subject: Bingo
What a splendid result...I'm sure that many of our 'mysteries' are simply badly transcribed information.
I was once looking for a particular Rigby family and there was no sign of them on the 1901 census until I searched the whole area bit by bit and found them but their name had been transcribed as RIGLEY...
Dotty
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Go to the Full census search
Personal details - put the name etc
When the person you think is the right one.
Go back to full search
Just put in just surname this time plus residential place in personal details making sure you delete other details like year of birth etc,
then scroll down to other members of household
Put in first and surname
then that should bring up all members of the household.
It ususally works but sometimes as in this case the surname vary.
To get proper info though you would have to buy credits to check the relationships and where they were living etc.
Seacop, I have been doing it this way since they closed that 'big' loophole, so quite some time now.
It doesn't really give you any info but if you just want to know who else is in the household it does help
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 4:43 pm Post subject: Re: Gillies
Yvonne,
Thank you so much for taking the time to do the search! North Meols/Southport remains my favorite site, not only because of the information, but more importantly, because of the helpful and generous members who so willingly share their time and knowledge with us less experienced, out of the area folks. Thank you also for the tips on how to get around the census until you know you have a correct match. I can now go in and search for Clara, my grandmother. She didn't leave England until October of 1911, so she was living with someone, possibly family. The other thing that I find that is curious - Maud Pollick, who appeared as the adopted daughter of the William Gillies family in the 1891 census, does not appear with the family in the 1901 census. I thought she may have died, but here she is with them again in 1911. I find that strange. If you ever need anything from across the pond, please let me know.
I must be thick...I followed your instruction Yvonne for my Grandad. Maybe its the name.....Ernest mason.
I got a list of Mason's but I know they were not all his family.
Obviously it only works with a rarer surname or I'm not following things correctly
kaiello
Glad you find all us a helpful lot. I know people have helped me from places my ancestors lived and how grateful I was. So i try to do the same.
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Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 6:48 pm Post subject: Re: Searching 1911 Census
Jane,
I had to fiddle with this a bit. I believe you have to know the street address so it will zero in on one location. I tried it both ways, and unless there's just one family in the area, you get all the families unless you provide a specific address. I did find who was living at 42 Clifford Rd.
Jane, if you put another name at the bottom ie someone who you know that should be around in the same family then that may narrow down the Mason's.
Sometimes I have to put the wife's name, and sometimes the first names or surnames are not spelt as they should be. I found a Howard who was down as Floward and an Alfred who was listed as Alfed but I found him by putting in one of his children's names instead.
If you would like me to have a look let me know the details, but I must admit it doesn't always work, I still cannot find my grandfather and gt grandfather/gt grandmother
Thanks for the offer but I was just seeing if I could work out what to do.
The ones I need to find I shall wait for. No idea where in the country they may be. I have a certain person who did vanish. She was married to my grandad and we can't find anything after the 1901 census.............we believe she may have gone to Ireland or even abroad.
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I promised to look for a Gillies divorce at Kew for Kiello which I duly did without success. I found twelve Gillies divorces covering a century but not our man. Apparently at the relevant time all divorce cases were heard in the Supreme Court in London so not much chance of any relation of mine, however distant, getting involved in that kind of expense.
PS I did however have more success in researching the FWW records on behalf of a woman who contacted me on G.R. about a possible match (in fact no connection) who wanted to know about her GGF who she thought was K.I.A. In fact in 1920 he was court marshalled for deserting from a hospital in Warrington!! He lost 42 days pay which is rather better than being shot at dawn.
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and an Alfred who was listed as Alfed but I found him by putting in one of his children's names instead.
