Meadows

Germaine · Joined: 28 Jun 2006 Posts: 173 Location: Fleetwood

Hi I would like to publicy thank Jane and everyone for your help on this one. Although only a few lines it is another piece in my jigsaw of Margaret and her family.
Thank you again
Germaine
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Dotty · Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 3:17 pm Post subject: Three cheers...

Yes, Jane is brill isn't she?

A veritable Sherlock Holmes...

Dotty

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Germaine · Joined: 28 Jun 2006 Posts: 173 Location: Fleetwood

Yes she certainly is Dotty has made my day today.
Germaine
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Jane · Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 5:02 pm Post subject:

Oh thank you. I like finding anything that helps. But it is nice to know it is appreciated.

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PatF · Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Posts: 22

Hello to all of you included in the above posts - really interesting stuff.

Just started going into my mother's side of the family (Singleton) and have found the Balls of North Meols - have posted about them on my first visit. Thomas Ball married an Elizabeth Andow Meadow before he married my gtgtgrandmother, Alice Wareing (1850) and I wondered if anyone has connections with Elizabeth - know nothing about her except that she married Thomas 29.4.1823 in North Meols - they are on the 1841 census with their family and on the 1851 - Elizabeth has been replaced by Alice!

Hoping to hear from somebody........thanks.........Pat

Germaine · Joined: 28 Jun 2006 Posts: 173 Location: Fleetwood

Hi Pat I will look into my Meadows and see if I can find anything.
I have found their marriage at St. Cuthberts on the extracts I have and as far as I have found up to now I think most of the Meadows named in it were of the same family.
Germaine
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Germaine · Joined: 28 Jun 2006 Posts: 173 Location: Fleetwood

Hi Pat. Well it is the Andow bit that is throwing me . On my copy of the extracts of the parish reocrds. It has Elizabeth Andow (Meadow) so I am wondering if the Andow could be what it looked like but is Meadow? or was it a middle name.
Looking at the parish records and the census It could well be one of my family of Meadows. Thing is that on the 1841 ages were not exact (rounded up and down ) So we cannot be sure of her age. Also if you check out Thomas age he is way out on the following census to the 1841 Luckily he looks to have stayed in the same house so we know it is him.
so as long as I am right Elizabeth would have been born in 1802 daughter of George Meadow and Ann Hunt. George was the brother to my ancestor Henry they were both son's of the miller James Meadow who I mention in the indenture that I have.
I am going to try and copy the indenture but will need to get rid of my lot and have a few hours to copy it all. I don't want to keep getting it in and out of the roll so as not to spoil it. But will do it. it is very interesting.
Hope this helps if you need more just shout.
Germaine
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PatF · Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Posts: 22

Hello Germaine
Thanks for the quick reply. I thought perhaps Andow was a surname of one of her relations as I think I am right in saying when searching did find some Elizabeth Andows somewhere.

On the copy of the 1841 I have I couldn't actually make out his age but as you say it is the right Thomas. Elizabeth is only connected to me by their marriage but it is good to be able to find out as much as possible about her. I hadn't even started to look for her parents so you seemed to have saved me a job - thanks Very Happy

The indenture does sound interesting Germaine. Once again thanks for the info - I am now going to copy it down into my records.

Really appreciate your help - bye for now - Pat

Germaine · Joined: 28 Jun 2006 Posts: 173 Location: Fleetwood

Your very welcome Pat if you need anything any dates etc just let me know you can have what I have found. Funny thing is that Margaret Meadows eventually married a Gilbert Ball here in Fleetwood. I haven't gone into his side too much as yet so who knows he may well be related to Thomas.
Good Luck with your trees.
Germaine
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PatF · Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Posts: 22

Hello Germaine

Got your info onto my file now and I also went on the .net to find a photograph of St Cuthberts Church where I believe there are a lot of Balls buried as well as being the place Thomas and Elizabeth married; I don't know who Thomas's parents are but when I get around to trying to find them I will look out for a Gilbert. I would love to find photographs of the family and I picked three Ball names out of the BT directory in the Southport area and wrote asking if they were connected - one lady aged 80 rang me and said her husband was a Thomas and his father before him (his mother was a Hosker)and she said she knows of somebody researching the Ball family (a cousin of her husband) and she will try to get in touch with him as unfortunately she didn't know much about her husband's family and apparantley before her Thomas became ill he wanted to find more about his family and they visited St Cuthberts and found a lot of ancestors there; she said the Balls seemed to intermarry quite a lot which had confused her husband but people seemed to stay put in those days so I suppose they were a bit stuck for a choice of partners Wink

Sent SAE with the letters but not heard back from the other two so I guess they aren't connected or interested. Might try another 3!!!!!

Bye for now - Pat

Jane · Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 10:04 am Post subject:

Pat that is so annoying. I too have tried writing to people always enclosing a SAE. Rarely do they reply - even with a no thank you.

If you take a look at the society web site you shall find some photo's of St Cuthbert's Church taken fairly recently.

I should also warn you ball is such a common name around here. Most people find a Ball, Rimmer or Wright among ancestors.

As you may know the society is in the process of transcribing the monumental inscriptions for St Cuthberts. Bez is the one to ask about that but again there is something on the web site.

Find us at - www.nmfhssouthport.co.uk

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Dotty · Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 10:08 am Post subject: WOW

What an enterprising person you are Pat. I'd never have thought of that. I hope you have some more good luck. That old duck sounds nice..

Good hunting.

Dotty

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PatF · Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Posts: 22

Hello Jane and Dotty

Thanks for the posts. At the moment Jane I am still trying to work out dates for all the children from both of Thomas's marriage and I am sure quite a number of the family have connections to St Cuthberts re christenings and funerals as well as the marriages - when I get organised I will ask for further help. My Thomas and alice Ball both died in Westhoughton so that's another direction I must go!!!

Dotty: I have even knocked on doors and believe me it has paid off twice. (only tried it twice!) I never thought I would have the nerve to do it but when you are so near and yet so far - the only way is to take a deep breath and knock!!! I once found a box number of an ancestor in a will and thought I would try writing - it was an address in the Bahamas and a couple of months later I got a reply with valuable info and best of all photographs of my Dad's Palmer family....you would have thought I had won the lottery!! Did the same to an address in France about 4 years ago and am still waiting for a reply Laughing

The stories we could all tell about this family history lark - someone once asked me "why do you spend so much time looking for a lot of old dead people?" (meaning why didn't I get life) what they don't realise is if it wasn't for all those old dead people WE wouldn't be here would we? Each to their own Wink

Off to feed the dog.......thanks for taking an interest.......bye for now Pat

Germaine · Joined: 28 Jun 2006 Posts: 173 Location: Fleetwood

hi Everyone Very Happy

I have made a start on the Indenture going to take a long time.
Hope you understand it couldn't make out all the words.
Perhaps someone can tell me where the Windmill would have been.?
Best put on in pieces anyway as it is going to be so long. Will add more as I do it.
Germaine
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This Indenture Made this Twenty Second Day of November in the year of Our Lord One Thousand Eight Hundred and Two . Between Thomas Eccleston of Scarisbrick in the County of Lancaster Esquiro ? on the one part and James Meadow of North Meols in the said County Miller? Of the other part. Witnoseth that in consideration of the Raoils Conounts? And Agreements herein after usould > and contained on the part of the said James Meadow and his heirs and asfrideges? Ho ? the said Thomas Eccleston by these present doth do wise to use and to farm? Doth? The said James Meadow his heirs and asfrideges. All that part of said situate in the South East Corner of a certain close of Lancashire in the Scarisbrick in aforesaid known as Mill Hey being part of Number One Hundred and Forty One in the plan on Survey of Scarisbrick aforesaid and containing in C? the measuring from the offices on the West Side of the lane along side of the said Thomas Ecclestons Paddock and the Westwards Eighty yards intil in breadth measuring from the offices to the south side of the Mill Hey. Northwards Thirty Two yards and containing in the whole one quarter of an acre to the same measure cop in the occupation of Thomas Hargreaves as tenant thereof. Together with a Liberties surveyors Advantages how of itunnous? And uppertaining except said always reserve out of the demise unto Thomas Eccleston his heirs and asfrideges. All woods ? ? woods woodlands timber and other trees Minor minerals Delph? And quarries said gravel and appointees to outer and come after the said advised ? provisore ? and source for dig work got raise cut down lay or take away kill destroy carry away and dispose of the said cos------? at pleasure and also full liberty and power for him and there to make and use anyway roads cuts canals reservoirs tunnels and aqueducts in the upon through over the said domise procrous? or any part there be and also practicality ? for the said Thomas Eccleston his heirs and asfrideges to induce force and improve for his and their own use and be input? In anyway of the commons and the waste grounds in Scarisbrick foresaid . To hold to said plot piece or parcel of said horthcut---?? And promises how in before demised ? so to be with the appretouness?
(Except as aforesaid with the said James Meadow and his heirs and during the natural and soulful life and lives of James Halsall aged about 13 years James Meadow son of Henry Meadow aged about 13 years and James Meadow son of George Meadow aged about 10 years Grandsons of the said James Meadow party herein after and for the survivor of them paying said Thomas Eccleston his heirs Expenditure Administration and asfrideges
to be continued!!

Dotty · Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 3:19 pm Post subject: Oooerr...

Hi Germaine

You must have the patience of Job. I'd have given up ages ago. Good luck with the rest.

Dotty

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