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SeaCopRimmer



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wigan Cemetery Burials:

13.06.1888; Mary Elizabeth Rimmer; 26 years; Dawber Street
05.03.1891; Elizabeth Rimmer; 65 years; 2 Dawber Street
02.11.1893; Nathan Rimmer; 70 years; 2 Dawber Street

Bear in mind that Nathan's wife on the 1891 Census could have been Elizabeth (Eliza for short)!

Found the above on www.wiganworld.co.uk (a site that Jane passed on to me)





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PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just noticed on some census information that I have been sent today.

RG12/3056 Folio 74 Page 5

Nathan Rimmer 1821 Head, Widower
2 Dawber Street.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 2:58 pm    Post subject: Re: NATHAN RIMMER Reply with quote

BIGALB wrote:
Hi,Can anyone please help? I am trying to find any information on a Nathan Rimmer .I have little or no information about him , only that he served with the south lancashire regiment in the first world war.He died 26/10/1918 in France/Belgium.He was my father-in-law's grandfather.
Any information would be gratefully received
Regards ALAN


I'm also researching this Nathan Rimmer, who was born in Southport and subsequently moved to Leigh. I have a lot  of information on descendants and on related lines. I would very much like to know who his parents were. Checks on Ancestry are frustrating because there is more than one Nathan who fits the bill and who was born around the same time in the same area.

Any help much appreciated and I'll be pleased to share what information I have.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marymar,
Was Nathan definitely born in Southport??

Another family with a Nathan living in Wigan in 1901

Robert Rimmer 45  
Elizlett Rimmer 46  
Emily Rimmer 23  
Ellen Ann Rimmer 21  
Mary E Rimmer 17  
Nathan Rimmer 15  born Wigan

RG13; Piece: 3557; Folio: 61; Page: 28.

The father, Robert, could possibly be the son of Nathan and Elizabeth nee Howard, (as previously mentioned). Dates fit with what I know of his approx birth date.




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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yvonne wrote:
slyMarymar,
Was Nathan definitely born in Southport??

Another family with a Nathan living in Wigan in 1901

Robert Rimmer 45  
Elizlett Rimmer 46  
Emily Rimmer 23  
Ellen Ann Rimmer 21  
Mary E Rimmer 17  
Nathan Rimmer 15  born Wigan

RG13; Piece: 3557; Folio: 61; Page: 28.

The father, Robert, could possibly be the son of Nathan and Elizabeth nee Howard, (as previously mentioned). Dates fit with what I know of his approx birth date.

That's how I have this family recorded. Did quite a bit of "census-chasing" on this lot recently; this was following up another thread subject Samuel Jackson who married an Alice Rimmer, Nathan's brother. They are both children of of Robert Rymer (c1791) and Margaret Barton (c1793). Nathan & Elizabeth upped sticks to Wigan to work on the railways
Brian


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SeaCopRimmer wrote:
Appreciate the amount of work here, Unsworth, but unless we have an approximate age for Bigalb's Nathan Rimmer then we're all working in the dark!   It's not likely that anybody born before c.1870 would have been a soldier in the Great War
Where are you Bigalb - we need some answers :?:


The Nathan Rimmer that Bigalb and I are independently searching for was born c 1878 in North Meols, Southport. He married Alice Prescott at St Stephen's Church, Banks, on 4 Sept 1907. Their children included Mary Ellen Rimmer, b Leigh, c 1908, who married Arthur Gilman. I'm aware that buying a certificate is very likely to solve the problem of distinguishing this Nathan Rimmer from the others who were in Southport around the same time, but am working to a limited budget on behalf of someone else so I'm hoping that out there someone may be able to identify the Nathan I'm searching for without having to buy a certificate. This one was a member of the Prince of Wales  Volunteers (South Lancashire Regiment) Battalion: 1/5th Battalion. His Number was 15936 and he was killed in action in Belgium on 26 Oct 1918.

I have a subscription to Ancestry so can check census returns but have been stymied so far by the Rimmer of the same name (all, perhaps, related to one another!).

Any help or advice would be much appreciated, both by me and by the person I am trying to help. (You all seem such a helpful lot on the Forum that I feel there must be someone out there who can advise!)

Thank you.
Mary


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Samuel Jackson who married an Alice Rimmer, Nathan's brother. They are both children of of Robert Rymer (c1791)


Brian, do you mean Alice, Nathan's sister.

Joyce O has her marrying Thomas Cadwell 25 Nov 1834


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yvonne wrote:
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Samuel Jackson who married an Alice Rimmer, Nathan's brother. They are both children of of Robert Rymer (c1791)


Brian, do you mean Alice, Nathan's sister.

Joyce O has her marrying Thomas Cadwell 25 Nov 1834

Hi Yvonne
Yes Alice Rimmer sister of Nathan. While I was researching Alice & Nathan it became clear from censuses that this Alice could not be the one who married Thomas Cadwell, but did indeed marry Samuel Jackson. I had a long email correspondence with Joyce and she agrees. She also confirmed it by checking the Wigan All Saints PRs where it says Alice is d of Robert Rimmer. Joyce has upfated her own database; I'm sure "Park" will be updated in due course!.

After the musical chairs had stopped Thomas Cadwell has ended up (pro tem at least) with Alice Rimmer 29 Jan 1815, d of Richard Rymer & Alice Halsall

Hope that makes sense!
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Brian, will amend my family tree


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This all ties in with the "Rimmer/Rymer" thread; in fact it was Sheila who first indicated that the Alice's were with the wrong husbands.

I've had a few instances recently where new information has led to a re-evaluation of data in Park ; most notably an Ellen Blundell moved within the space of an afternoon from "not related" to "7th cousin" to "1st cousin"  Joyce is always pleased to get new information!
Brian




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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brian,

Just carrying on from the above, is this the Samuel Jackson do you know who married Alice

Elizabeth Jackson 49  
Israel Jackson 14  
Amelia Jackson 23  (Rimmer on actual census)
Richard Rimmer 25  
Samuel Jackson 25  

RG12; Piece: 3396; Folio 53; Page 16; GSU

if so, could be that Nathan and Alice's brother Richard married Amelia, sister of Samuel.


NO scrub that just realised Samuel would be c1815, got carried away




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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wrote:
I might just have a quick look at this lot though; Jackson is one of my main interests and I don't have them
ok I've checked them out - they're not "mine" they come from Staffordshire originally.
Brian




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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Redid my mail and noticed you had replied.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="BrianG"][quote="Yvonne"]slyMarymar,
"Was Nathan definitely born in Southport??

Another family with a Nathan living in Wigan in 1901"



I'm told by Nathan's grandson that his grandfather was born in Southport, and he confirms that the medal record for 15936, killed in action in Belgium in 1918, is his grandfather. He also says that his father was over 40 when he died, which means, if correct, that the Nathan born in Wigan must be a different person.

Thanks a lot to Yvonne and Brian for your efforts on our behalf. The mystery deepens!

Mary


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mary
Do you know if Nathan's wife was called Lydia?
Brian




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