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BrianG
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 Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 11:25 pm Post subject: JACKSON (Henry) b 1806 |
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In the One Name Extracts my gt-gt-grandfather Henry Jackson is listed as the base-born son of Jenny.
What was the convention here (if any)? Does this mean that Jenny was the Jackson or the unnamed father?
A previous researcher ( my late aunt, a Jackson) seems to have gone for Henry Jackson (b 1782) as the father with an unknown Jenny. However this Henry had a sister Jenny and I am tempted to think that she is the mother and the father is unknown.
Are there any other sources which might help clear this up?
Brian
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| Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 11:48 pm Post subject: |
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| base born meant he was illegitimate. his mother was the Jackson.
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BrianG
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| Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 11:58 pm Post subject: |
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| unsworth wrote: | | base born meant he was illegitimate. his mother was the Jackson. |
thanks - I suspected as much. At least it's only a minor change to my tree, swap the brother for the sister!!
Brian
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BrianG
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| Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 11:05 am Post subject: |
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looks like "our Jenny" was a popular lass:
Jan 22 1804 George s Jenny bb
Nov 30 1806 Henry s Jenny bb
Jan 22 1809 Mary d Jenny (this one from IGI - not on One-Name-Extracts)
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| Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 11:49 am Post subject: |
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Hello Brian
I found these on the A2A website http://www.a2a.org.uk/, I think they refer to some of Jenny's children.
PETITIONS
Ormskirk: Easter 1804 - ref. QSP/2498
FILE - North Meols. Order of filiation and maintenance of bastard son of Edward Rimmer of Birkdale, husbandman, and Jenny Jackson, singlewoman - ref. QSP/2498/30 - date: 1804 5 Apr
Ormskirk: Easter 1807 - ref. QSP/2546
FILE - North Meols. Order of filiation and maintenance of bastard son of John Cropper, weaver, and Jenny Jackson, singlewoman - ref. QSP/2546/68 - date: 1807 12 Mar
From this is looks like John Cropper was Henry's father.
Hope this helps
Steve Baxter
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BrianG
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| Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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| baxtersp wrote: | Hello Brian
I found these on the A2A website http://www.a2a.org.uk/, I think they refer to some of Jenny's children.
Steve Baxter
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Steve
Many thanks for your help
I've not seen that site before - very useful, the dates certainly match well.
Regards
Brian
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| Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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Your welcome Brian.
Yes, a very handy sight. There's lots of little secrets held at the Lancashire Records Office, going back hundreds of years. Even over-payments for Window Tax in 1702.
The children of unwed mothers had to be fed and clothed of course, so Orders were taken against the respective fathers to pay towards the child's upkeep.
Jenny certainly wasn't on her own, there are hundreds of these Orders on the records. Just enter a surname and see for yourself. There can't be many researchers who haven't come across at least one or two in their ancestors. There's lots of other court records as well, boundary disputes etc.
Steve Baxter
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BrianG
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I came across this site via the Suffolk FHS
http://www.originaldatabases.co.uk/
Browsing idly through it I came across
| Quote: | Surname: jackson Forename(s): henry
Place: - Count(r)y: -
Date: 1814 Type: employment
Source: north meols apprentice indentures, 1716-1816 Details: apprentice, bound to the below, age 8 |
| Quote: | Surname: hooton Forename(s): thomas
Place: north meols Count(r)y: lancashire , england
Date: 1814 Type: -
Source: north meols apprentice indentures, 1716-1816 Details: weaver, taking the above apprentice |
I've not (yet) found any other Henry Jacksons b 1806, so it looks like my gt-gt-grandfather Henry was apprenticed at age 8! It is just possible that Thomas Hooton is also in my tree.
Think I'll be spending quite a bit of time on this site!!
Brian
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Thomas Hooton 1784-1875 married Ann Jackson (born 1787) 3rd January 1814.
Thomas was one of the sons of John Hooton and Ellen Aughton.
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This is, or was, Gerry Pallisers site - renamed and without the price list as far as I can tell.
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| You're right Bez. trouble is you put a name in and then when it finds soemthing do you get all the information for free - or do you then have to pay him for more?
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| Bez wrote: | Thomas Hooton 1784-1875 married Ann Jackson (born 1787) 3rd January 1814.
Thomas was one of the sons of John Hooton and Ellen Aughton. |
That's the one - Ann Jackson is (most probably) Henry's auntie. I had not checked for any other Thomas Hooton's.
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| Jane wrote: | | You're right Bez. trouble is you put a name in and then when it finds soemthing do you get all the information for free - or do you then have to pay him for more? |
I don't see any price lists / payment options, or any deeper information than the examples I listed above. In fact apart from the contact form on the homepage there are no clues as to how to get one's mitts on the source documents.
The PMID section has quite a lot from Southport - Duke St cemetery etc, lots of Hodge(s) listed; might be of interest!!
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| bgriffiths wrote: | | Bez wrote: | Thomas Hooton 1784-1875 married Ann Jackson (born 1787) 3rd January 1814.
Thomas was one of the sons of John Hooton and Ellen Aughton. |
That's the one - Ann Jackson is (most probably) Henry's auntie. I had not checked for any other Thomas Hooton's.
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Mmmm.... there was another Thomas Hooton probably alive at the time, born in 1763 and married to Martha Ball in 1789. He was the brother of John Hooton, so was the other Thomas's uncle. He was also a weaver. As neither Tom nor Martha appear to have been buried at St Cuthbert's, I suspect that they were interred at Chapel St Congregational.
The younger Thomas (John's son) does appear in the St Cuthbert's burial registers in 1875, aged 90yrs and 6 months, but there is no sign of his wife Ann for some reason.
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