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Frances Edith



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 8:46 pm    Post subject: John Wright the Wandering Wright - Found  Reply with quote

Some time ago I began looking for the parents of John Wright who was born in North Meols 26 February 1776 and eventually I decided his parents must have been Thomas Wright and Ellen Ann Thomasis.  The baptism was 29 February 1776.  At the time I had no way of proving this apart from the extensive information I had gathered from several sources including the Vegetarian Messenger "JOHN WRIGHT (for by this plainest appellation
he is best known to thousands of his townsmen) was born at North Meols, a
small village on the sea-shore, near Southport, Lancashire, on the 26th of February, 1776. His father was a sea captain, and being of a wandering disposition, and ignorant, or callous to the responsibilities of a parent, left JOHN, when very young, in the care of his mother."  I had my DNA done with Ancestry and since then I have connected to two other North Meols descendant connected to me through Ellen Ann Thomasis which I think proves my "guess" about John's parents was right.  I wonder what happened to Thomas Wright - the sea captain?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2017 12:49 pm    Post subject: Greetings Reply with quote

Hello and welcome to our forum.

That is a good question and one that someone has probably got the answer to...

Give us a little more information about your Wright family and see who replies...

Regards

Dotty

PS ,    

Southport only came into being in the 1800's whilst North Meols was around from the time of the Domesday Book.
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Frances Edith



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 1:42 am    Post subject: John Wright the Wandering Wright - Found Reply with quote

Its frustrating to know so much about a person yet not know who his parents are.  I seemed, eventually, to have made a good guess at Thomas Wright who married Ellen Ann Thomasis "Marriage: 22 Sep 1772 St Cuthbert, North Meols, Lancashire, England Thomas Right - marriner and Ellen Thomason" because DNA suggests that Ellen Ann Thomasis was my 5th great grandmother as of date I have two other relatives related to Ellen with whom I share significant DNA.  So I think my guess is right.  Thomas Wright is mentioned in John Wright's history (written for the Vegetarian magazine I mentioned before) as a Sea Captain who went missing although it does not give his name.   He was a Mariner in the time of the American war of Independence, not a good time for any one in Britain.  I have his father as Richard Wright mainly because the address of Marshside and his name since Richard was a popular name in John Wright's family, his brother was Richard as was a son.  But this may not be true.  So far I have not seen John's baptism in an actual register. I am working from what appears in Lancashire Online Parish Clerk the date of 29 February 1776 seems right and the name of the father is Thomas (no mother's name though!)  I am now encouraged to look at Thomas and Ellen some more.
I will be visiting North Meols this year when I visit my sister.  Ilike Southport but have never ventured into the wilds of North Meols.
Frances
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2017 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you tried Joyce Otterstrom's Project Park on Rootsweb?  It has information on John Wright b 26 Feb 1776 and his lineage going back to Robert Wright/Right who was buried 17 Apr 1623.  His birthdate is not given but his elldest child, also Robert, was born in 1596 in North Meols.

This may be found at:  http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=park&id=I12683

Hope this helps

Have a good trip to Southport and North Meols

Bob
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Frances Edith



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2017 6:50 am    Post subject: John Wright the Wandering Wright - Found Reply with quote

Thanks Bob.  I have sent an appeal to Joyce Otterstrom and perhaps she can sort me out.  The information I have gathered points me firmly to Marsh side and Banks in North Meols.  My DNA test strongly suggests that Ellen Thomasis (Thomason) is my ancestor and I know my ancestor's John Wright's date of birth thanks to his Obituary in the Vegetarian Messenger, which is 26th Feb 1776 and the closest Baptism for John Wright to this is the 29th Feb 1776 but it only names the father, Thomas.  I think my logic is okay, although I did this exercise some years ago, I looked for a Thomas Wright who had a son called John and a son called Richard whose wife was Ellen.  Ellen name came from her Burial in Salford at the Bible Christian Church which also gave me a likely year for her birth.  Its complex and not straightforward.  The second son was mentioned in the article too.  I am frustrated since I cannot read the original records online, they are not there for Banks or Marsh Side on Ancestry (that I can find).  Are there booklets with copies of these registers?  I did buy some for Ysceifiog in Flintshire.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 6:25 pm    Post subject: Publications for sale Reply with quote

Hello again Frances,

Have you looked at our website to see if any of our publications for sale
could possibly help you?

If you were a member of the Society you could contact the Editor of our quarterly magazine and put a request in for more details on this particular family line.

There are several users who are very knowledgeable and also will share the same family members.

If you wish you can use the PM button to contact people on the forum directly.  

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Dotty    


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