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unsworth
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see I just knew I'd jog a memory somewhere. sometimes old memories of conversations between older relatives pop up at the most unexpected times. I may not have all the answers. but I figured some one would know what I was talking about. thanks to all you psychics out there.
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Bez
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As suggested previously, there may well be a record of the inquests in the Liverpool papers of the time. As you know the date of the deaths you could phone Liverpool library and ask them to check for reports of the inquests. In those days inquests were held immediately (not adjourned as they are today) and they were often held around the body of the deceased.
One of my ancestors lay on a hotel table while the inquest was held around him.
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Dotty
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Bez
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What do you mean - gruesome????
The daft beggar had been on a day trip to Southport and had too much to drink. When the train stopped for some reason outside of Wigan he got out to relieve himself. When the train started to move again he missed his footing trying to get back in the carriage and fell under the wheel. His chest was badly crushed and he died a couple of hours later in the hotel he'd been taken to. That's the reason he was there.
Thank goodness for newspaper reports.
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Roger
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I have noticed that unexpected deaths of the period came under the jurisdiction of the Ormskirk coroner. The Quarter Sessions Petitions in the Lancs RO (Ref QSP) include coroners' expense accounts when they travelled to hold an inquest and I have obtained information on a couple of inquests in North Meols in the past. It used to be possible to search for names in the Quarter Sessions records using a card index file in the searchroom in Preston but it was removed when the index was put onto the a2a website. Unfortunately they put all the records except the coroners' accounts online! I am sure the staff in Preston would be able to help to search for an account for the inquest on the Corner family and others.
The coroners' accounts generally only give very limited information about the circumstances of deaths, but would confirm that there was an inquest. Actual reports of coroners' inquests of the time are held in the Palatinate of Lancaster records at the National Archives in Kew. Records for the years 1807-1823 are filed under PL 26/295. I have used these records but it is not a very rewarding experience. All the records for each year are in folded bundles held together with string. Judging by the numbers in each bundle the vast majority of inquest reports for Lancashire have not survived and I have never found anything I was looking for.
As mentioned earlier, newspaper reports may help. Obviously it was too early for Southport papers and there does not seem to have been anything published in Ormskirk at the time. However, the Preston Journal and Croft's Lancashire General Advertiser was published between Feb 1807 and Aug 1812. I understand it is held by the Harris Library in Preston. Also, the Liverpool Mercury was published from 1811 so it may be worth checking the Liverpool Record Office.
I hope this helps
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Don Hancock
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| Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 10:09 am Post subject: BARLOW family drownings - 1812. |
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Thank you all for your suggestions about possible sources of information. Some of these have already been tried with no results. Particular thanks to Roger for his comprehensive guidance as to the location of coroners records, which I have found from previous experience are notoriously difficult to unearth, even if they still exist, and then can be rather short on the details. However, I will still give them a try as soon as I get time.
Regards to all,
Don.
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BARLOW, BOWLER, CARR, CHEETHAM & MARSHALL in and around the Birkdale & Halsall area of south west Lancashire.
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